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Georgiegirl256

sofarbehind wrote: »

It's true sludgy tea is a hazard but we're on the same page with the sausage rolls:rotfl:

Yes totally! I think we should have a savoury section in the fort! *throws in some Walkers Sensations to start it off*

Anyhow, night all, busy day tomorrow so I'm off to bed now x x

Pyxis

MessedUp, I've just read your rant, and I think it's a brilliant rant! I think Gregg's should frame it and put it in your staff room!

They have been good to you, understanding and accommodating, and so should be applauded for that.

And you do work hard and conscientiously, so,you should also be applauded!

Good for you! :T :T :T

I hope you posted your rant on the other thread, too. The person who was snooty is obviously ignorant of what actually goes on, and what is involved , and should be informed of such.

seven-day-weekend

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Excuse me, (and i apologise in advance) but i need a rant. :mad:

I really really hate the fact people look down on me for doing the job i do (and that the company i work for seems to have the stigma of being a job that only school drop outs do). Yes i have a degree. No my job does not require one, but so !!!!ing what? if i'd done a different degree maybe i'd have had some amazingly well paid job but even then i probably wouldn't have been able to cope with the stress that comes with such jobs so i'd still be in the same situation. For starters yes i work in retail, but i actually get paid ABOVE minimum wage. I work my !!! off despite having MH problems that have left me unable to work previously. With that in mind i am goddamn proud of myself for being able to cope when at times it can be extremly busy and quite stressful. My company have bent over backwards to support me in staying in work and i hate seeing them get a bad rep as they've been so good to me. On another thread someone gave my workplace as an example of what a mother wouldn't be proud of her daughter doing, well guess what, my mum is actually VERY proud of me for the job i do and the fact that despite everything i've stuck it out for 2 years and work damn hard to keep it that way.

It just annoys me that certain areas are looked down on by people. The people i work with generally work their asses off and at management level its actually very good money and something i hope to aim for myself one day.

*and breathe*

I was a lollipop lady for about ten years(with a degree) and got this very same reaction. My attitude was that it was an essential and important job which would be missed if no-one did it.

My son works on the roast chicken counter at Morrisons and is very happy there and couldn't care less what other people think about it. He too would find a high powered job incredibly stressful. As his mother I am very proud of the fact that he is good at his job, does it well and has won store employee of the month several times

You are doing an honest and necessary job of work, don't let other people make you feel bad about it. Hold your head high and tell them Yah Mogglers.

Next time you recognise one of these debunkers coming into Greggs for a steak slice, spit on it secretly and hand it to them with your best professional smile

elsien

Morning all. Got up early with long list of jobs to do. Sight of said list has made me feel exhausted so I've taken to my chair. I need ways to motivate myself to do the indoor jobs when I'd far rather be outside. ( I'd say the indoor ones can wait, but I've been saying that fir weeks.)
Parent offered to do some cleaning because I've helped with gardening but that makes me feel guilty because the gardening was meant to be in return for her Gitdog sitting. She says Gitdog is no trouble - I know my Gitdog and him and trouble go together like tea and hobnobs.

Georgiegirl256

Here here Pyxis and SDW! Never be ashamed of your job. Retail is had work, you're on your feet all day and you have to put up with customers giving you cr*p and men letching after you (or in my case thinking they could talk down to me cause I worked in a male dominated environment), but you doing an awesome and valued job.

A university degree is no use if it hasn't got you into your chosen field. One of my colleagues did Fine Art....he ended up working in retail, so that was a waste of 3-4 years. So it isn't what that snobby person said. A degree isn't going to get you further in life than working in retail will. For certain jobs yes it'll be a neccessaity, but like anything in life it's down to the individual and how they apply themselves.

Case in point, I read that you eventually want your own shop. Some would be happy staying on the shop floor forever, but you want to push yourself further, and good for you!

Wow, that turned into an essay!

Georgiegirl256

Lists are good elsien, I'm currently working on mine as we speak....they help make you feel organised even when you're not doing anything! :rotfl: I'm sure your parents love looking after gitdog (that turns into hotdog on my auto correct! ), so take them up on their offer!

I know how you feel though, I haven't moved from my seat yet, I haven't finished my morning coffees! (Excuse, I'm waiting for the washer to finish! )

Pyxis

7DW....ewwwwwwwwww! Naughty step for you!


Georgie, I have to disagree that for your friend the Fine Art degree was a waste of 3-4 years. No education is ever wasted! It develops you in ways you are scarcely aware of. Most degrees are not vocational degrees, and were never meant to be.....they were a level of education that you proved you could reach. They were never meant to be training for a particular career. That training comes after you have your degree.

Similarly, no experience is ever wasted either. MessedUp's time on the shop floor is brilliant training for when she is a manager! Learning to deal with the public is no mean feat, and requires particular skills to be developed, which can be of use in any situation, jobwise or personal.

It was aeons ago now, but I value the holiday jobs I had from the age of 17......eg. operating a toy car tyre machine in a factory, serving in Woolworths, working in a Personnel office, on a production line in a ketchup factory, washing-up in a restaurant. They were all a real eye-opener, and taught me a lot. Long, hard hours for a tiny wage, which for me at the time was holiday money, as I was living at home, but I came to realise only too well that for most people this was their living wage, and, on the production line in particular, if I or anyone held up the line, by not working fast enough, people would lose bonuses etc., so it taught me a lot about teamwork and interdependence on others.



With regard to lollipop ladies, well I seem to remember several lollipop ladies over the years receiving OBEs, CBEs or other public accolades for their services to schools. Don't remember many middle management people getting any!

calleyw

I agree with Pyxis no education or degree is wasted.

I know of numerous people who got undergrad and post docs in all sorts of different fields and became Dr's then went in to computing. I know a couple of them have gone on to very well paying, high end jobs in well know companies.

Beki, Some people are total FW's. if you want to know what it means, the F is a swear word and W stands for wits. I feel so bad as a few years ago I was in a well know supermarket and I had alcohol and the person serving was under 18 and had to get permission to sell it to me. And the person who could do do that was down about 7 tills and busy. The middle aged guy behind me was huffing and puffing and moaning. I did not mind waiting so why could he not. I wished I had said something to him. As I left the supermarket I looked back he was having a go at the young girl on the till. She would have been getting min wage and did not deserve the grief. Arghhhhhhhhhh makes my blood boil.

I did sociology at GCSE and A Level and it teaches that you every ones job is important as each others. The example is a bin person and a Dr. Actually working on the bins is well paid and as said start at 6am and finish by 2-3pm!!!! Anyway a Dr may treat a disease but if the bin person does not take the rubbish that could cause a disease.

I have always said that all people should do two things. 1) ride a bike on the road then they might know how scary it is when you pass me giving me a half an inch!!! 2) work in customer services or with the general public. I am going to be very blunt. But most of the general public are thick as two short planks and very rude!!!! Make up half the rights they think they have. And have no idea what they are on about.

Because I have worked in customer services myself for a number of years in the past. I give people lee way. So if I have to wait so be it. I always say when they apologise for the wait. Thats ok. I think to myself at least we are not queuing for water and not living a country which has famine and war. I am never rude and always pleasant and say thank you to them. As they are doing a hard enough job as it is without you being rude and nasty to them. And they have a life and problems just like you.

Some people don't get it, No matter how low paid or crap a job seems to be it exists for a reason. I think so many people are so up there own behinds its unreal. Just because you earn X amount or do a certain job that does not mean you are better me. You could be horrible person.

Anyway thats my rant over LOL!!!

Yours

Calley

Georgiegirl256

Pyxis wrote: »

Georgie, I have to disagree that for your friend the Fine Art degree was a waste of 3-4 years. No education is ever wasted! It develops you in ways you are scarcely aware of. Most degrees are not vocational degrees, and were never meant to be.....they were a level of education that you proved you could reach. They were never meant to be training for a particular career. That training comes after you have your degree.

I do get where you are coming from, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on his one. It wasn't wasted in the sense that it gave him invaluable life experience, but for the actual degree itself, I think that unless you're actually going to use it to then go in to your chosen field then what's the point? I know it's not always possible for many students to then actually get a job in their chosen field, but if you actually go there with the aim of never actually using it? He actually said that to me. He never had plans to say work in a museum or become an art lecturer, it was basically a way to delay having to find a job and to carry on the student lifestyle for another few years! Same goes for a lot of my old friends from art college, not one of them chose to use their degree and they all do jobs that are not related to art at all, and, they are never going to use it.

My uncle went to Uni and trained as a teacher, that is all he ever wanted to do. He went to Papua New Guinea, Africa and many other countries and taught out there for years. When he came back home he became a university lecturer, and now he has students come over from Italy, and him and his wife teach them English. He is a highly educated man and has made excellent use of his degree.

I know my grandparents were so proud of him, but equally as proud of their other two sons and my Mam. As I said previously, like anything in life, things are what an individual makes them. I could have went to Uni to do a fine art course too, but what would have been the point when I knew for sure that I didn't want a job in that field of work?

seven-day-weekend

Pyxis wrote: »

7DW....ewwwwwwwwww! Naughty step for you!


Georgie, I have to disagree that for your friend the Fine Art degree was a waste of 3-4 years. No education is ever wasted! It develops you in ways you are scarcely aware of. Most degrees are not vocational degrees, and were never meant to be.....they were a level of education that you proved you could reach. They were never meant to be training for a particular career. That training comes after you have your degree.

Similarly, no experience is ever wasted either. MessedUp's time on the shop floor is brilliant training for when she is a manager! Learning to deal with the public is no mean feat, and requires particular skills to be developed, which can be of use in any situation, jobwise or personal.

It was aeons ago now, but I value the holiday jobs I had from the age of 17......eg. operating a toy car tyre machine in a factory, serving in Woolworths, working in a Personnel office, on a production line in a ketchup factory, washing-up in a restaurant. They were all a real eye-opener, and taught me a lot. Long, hard hours for a tiny wage, which for me at the time was holiday money, as I was living at home, but I came to realise only too well that for most people this was their living wage, and, on the production line in particular, if I or anyone held up the line, by not working fast enough, people would lose bonuses etc., so it taught me a lot about teamwork and interdependence on others.



With regard to lollipop ladies, well I seem to remember several lollipop ladies over the years receiving OBEs, CBEs or other public accolades for their services to schools. Don't remember many middle management people getting any!

Does then being a lollipop lady get me out of the naughty corner, even though I never got an OBE?