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Flytipping woes

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  • Ironically your approach has been much the same as the councils, it isn't my problem.

    Rather than send numerous confrontational emails to the council, surely it would have been better to try and get them on your side?

    I personally would tidy up the rear of the property, as has been suggested numerous times, i'd also have asked someone from the council to come out to view & discuss the issue face to face, and maybe it's not too late to do so?

    If necessary I would have agreed to help resolve the situation by clearing up what you could, in return for the council clearing the rest and trying to get to the bottom of who the culprit is.

    For what it's worth it looks like a commercial waste or house clearance company doing the tipping, the waste is too varied and too frequent to be domestic waste from a neighbouring house.

    I don't know if you've contacted your councillor yet, that seems like your best option now, but I can't help but feel this could have been avoided.

    Your neighbours can't be thrilled about the fly-tipping, even although it's not directly behind their property, as it will attract more rubbish to the alley that may affect them.

    Perhaps you could talk a few of your neighbours into helping you clear the rubbish, and maybe get them to email the council as well in support of your predicament?
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    edited 1 March 2016 at 7:01PM
    LUHG1878 wrote: »
    Rather than send numerous confrontational emails to the council, surely it would have been better to try and get them on your side?

    I tried being reasonable in my early responses but the succession of rude, blunt, responses have made it clear they're very firmly digging their heels in, just as I intend to.
    LUHG1878 wrote: »
    I personally would tidy up the rear of the property, as has been suggested numerous times

    Nope, sorry, at the moment I point-blank refuse to. Once I've cleaned it up once, more will immediately appear and I'll be doing it forever more. The council should be damned well doing something to catch the ****ers doing it.
    LUHG1878 wrote: »
    i'd also have asked someone from the council to come out to view & discuss the issue face to face, and maybe it's not too late to do so?

    They came out yesterday, while I was at work. They made a half-assed attempt to remove a few bits and pieces but still left some of it spilling over the "boundary" (see photos above). Their rude email responses, especially the one I got today, makes it clear they're not remotely interested in discussing the matter or coming to any kind of compromise. They could have easily removed far more yesterday so that only *some* of the rubbish was clearly on "my property". Instead, they're extracting the urine as far as I'm concerned.
    LUHG1878 wrote: »
    I don't know if you've contacted your councillor yet, that seems like your best option now, but I can't help but feel this could have been avoided.

    I couldn't agree more and, yes, I have now contacted my councillor and he's responded and asked me to send all the correspondence to him, which I've now done.
    LUHG1878 wrote: »
    Your neighbours can't be thrilled about the fly-tipping, even although it's not directly behind their property, as it will attract more rubbish to the alley that may affect them. Perhaps you could talk a few of your neighbours into helping you clear the rubbish, and maybe get them to email the council as well in support of your predicament?

    My neighbours don't give a damn. It doesn't affect them in any way. I'm the sole target here.
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    edited 16 March 2016 at 1:57AM
    Update. Got a reply from my local counciller:
    After reading through your email correspondents, speaking to the relevant officers and personally visited your back alleyway last Friday afternoon. I am unable to offer you any other help or advice apart from what the officers have already given you.

    He won't be getting my vote anytime soon. He can't even spel properly.

    In the meantime, tons more junk has been dumped in the back lane, and very firmly *not* on my "private property". I'll just keep reporting it week-in, week-out and they can continue to keep coming to clean it up while leaving "my" junk alone. Great job all round.
  • phil24_7
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    What about buying a couple of lengths of Harris fencing and a couple of feet. Put those across the end of your property (after clearing the junk into the lane) and that will stop the dumping on your property at least!
  • djdust
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    Seems I've got no choice but to get some fencing up, maybe get a small loan from somewhere. The problem still is getting rid of the existing junk. If I just chuck it into the lane, you can guarantee the council will have photographed it where it currently is and they'll come down on me like a ton of bricks. Pen-pushing @&£@s.
  • phil24_7
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    Harris fence panels can be had for cheap on ebay (hopefully someone local will be selling old/slightly damaged stuff). 2 panels and 2 feet cable tied to the right length will provide a physical barrier for the flytippers. Then lug the stuff that is on 'your' land half way down the lane. They would need to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that you did not dump it...which they wouldn't. Hell, they can't even be bothered to catch the actual flytippers!!!

    If this bothers you then you could gradually get rid of it in your brown bin and the council will collect that for free!!!
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    djdust wrote: »
    In the meantime, tons more junk has been dumped in the back lane, and very firmly *not* on my "private property". I'll just keep reporting it week-in, week-out and they can continue to keep coming to clean it up while leaving "my" junk alone. Great job all round.

    I don't fricking well believe it. I came home from work today to find that all the junk that was in the public lane has been cleared up - and put onto "my" pile of junk!!!!!??????????? :mad:
  • phil24_7
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    I would definitely be moving it down the lane!

    Make a formal complaint to the council saying that their clean up team has moved rubbish from the public lane to an area that they say is your private land.
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    phil24_7 wrote: »
    Make a formal complaint to the council saying that their clean up team has moved rubbish from the public lane to an area that they say is your private land.

    I emailed them tonight. They said they haven't actually attended the latest report I made yet. It's probably more likely a neighbour "clearing up", which of course, presents a problem. If I just chuck it back into the street, they could spot it again tomorrow and report me.... :(
  • phil24_7
    phil24_7 Posts: 1,535 Forumite
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    Just pile it up on the other side of the lane!
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