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Flytipping woes

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  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    tired_dad wrote: »
    Are you 100% the strip is yours. It may well not be. There is a chance the land registry boundry line may be the walling in the picture. If so its not your land even if someone has laid some tiles.

    I've no idea at all, the photo in post #14 up above is all I have to work with.
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    This page on the .gov site is nicely vague and doesn't really help:

    https://www.gov.uk/your-property-boundaries
  • WestonDave
    WestonDave Posts: 5,154 Forumite
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    To me that does look like there is an area behind your garage which is your property and which you are therefore responsible for "defending" and clearing. Probably a sensible defining line is a straight line along from the red brick wall to the left of your photo to the next property along that has a physical boundary that far into the street.


    Without wishing to be unkind, I personally feel that the unkempt and overgrown look with all the brambles doesn't help. It looks like the owner doesn't go out that way very often and doesn't care that much so won't be checking to see if someone is dumping stuff there. £10 on a bottle of glyphosate to knock the brambles back may well be a worthwhile investment. Beyond that the only real solution is going to be to fence that area off to keep the tippers out. That can be done relatively cheaply - it just needs to be enough to make it hard for the yobs to roll the stuff off the back of their pick up onto your part of the road - if they've got to lift it over something they'll look elsewhere.
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  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    WestonDave wrote: »
    Beyond that the only real solution is going to be to fence that area off to keep the tippers out. That can be done relatively cheaply

    Really? I know nothing about DIY so would appreciate advice. I really don't see how I could build a fence there, certainly not cheaply.
  • WestonDave
    WestonDave Posts: 5,154 Forumite
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    djdust wrote: »
    Really? I know nothing about DIY so would appreciate advice. I really don't see how I could build a fence there, certainly not cheaply.


    Probably the quickest way would be some of these - http://www.screwfix.com/p/bolt-down-post-supports-75-x-75mm-pack-of-2/99237 - you'd need one each end and then additional ones at 1.8m intervals to cover the gap - you drill holes into the concrete and bolt them down with appropriate expanding bolts (http://www.wickes.co.uk/BP-Fischer-FSA-Sleeve-Anchor-M10-10-Pack-of-4/p/141026). Then a wooden fence post to go with each one (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Easi-15-Incised-TimberFence-Post-75x75mmx1-5m/p/542000). Once that is up the cheapest solution is probably some wire mesh nailed firmly across the posts (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Chain-Link-Fencing-1-2mx10m-PVC-Coated/p/187738) - if you can get it at least 1.2m high and preferably 1.5m, then its going to be harder to get the stuff over the top of it. Make sure you can still gain access to that area from your garden. If I was doing it and didn't want that area I'd probably try and put some mesh from the top of the fence sloping back to the garage wall to stop smaller stuff getting thrown over. OK so its not going to be a tenner to fix but it can be done without spending hundreds on it.
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  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    WestonDave wrote: »
    Probably the quickest way would be some of these - http://www.screwfix.com/p/bolt-down-post-supports-75-x-75mm-pack-of-2/99237 - you'd need one each end and then additional ones at 1.8m intervals to cover the gap - you drill holes into the concrete and bolt them down with appropriate expanding bolts (http://www.wickes.co.uk/BP-Fischer-FSA-Sleeve-Anchor-M10-10-Pack-of-4/p/141026). Then a wooden fence post to go with each one (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Easi-15-Incised-TimberFence-Post-75x75mmx1-5m/p/542000). Once that is up the cheapest solution is probably some wire mesh nailed firmly across the posts (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Chain-Link-Fencing-1-2mx10m-PVC-Coated/p/187738) - if you can get it at least 1.2m high and preferably 1.5m, then its going to be harder to get the stuff over the top of it. Make sure you can still gain access to that area from your garden. If I was doing it and didn't want that area I'd probably try and put some mesh from the top of the fence sloping back to the garage wall to stop smaller stuff getting thrown over. OK so its not going to be a tenner to fix but it can be done without spending hundreds on it.

    Sorry, thanks for all the advice, it's interesting stuff but, for me, utterly impossible to do timewise or moneywise, I'm struggling to make ends meet as it is. :(
  • lisa110rry
    lisa110rry Posts: 1,794 Forumite
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    How about a sign saying "Smile, you're on candid camera. Your actions are being recorded"?

    edit: Preferably in several languages
    “And all shall be well. And all shall be well. And all manner of things shall be exceeding well.”
    ― Julian of Norwich
    In other words, Don't Panic!
  • ljonski
    ljonski Posts: 3,337 Forumite
    The trolley belongs to Tesco i think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    "if the state cannot find within itself a place for those who peacefully refuse to worship at its temples, then it’s the state that’s become extreme".Revd Dr Giles Fraser on Radio 4 2017
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
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    edited 1 October 2015 at 1:20PM
    djdust wrote: »
    Sorry, thanks for all the advice, it's interesting stuff but, for me, utterly impossible to do timewise or moneywise, I'm struggling to make ends meet as it is. :(

    but it seems you have to do *something* - make the time or find the (relatively minor amount of) cash, because the problem isn't going away on its own.

    I would:

    1. Reiterate to the council/paul in clear terms that none of the rubbish originates from your property, and isn't being dumped on your property.

    2. Clear all the brambles etc away from that wall, so it at least looks like you're looking after the property (perhaps the fly-tippers are choosing you to target because it looks like you're not bothered?)

    3. Build a fence or put in a bin-store type affair that will cover your property to the boundary - anything dumped outside of that is apparently not your problem...
  • djdust
    djdust Posts: 169 Forumite
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    Can I point out that I also have a garage that you can see in the pic. At the moment, I have it nailed shut as it got inhabited by squatters a few years back but, if I was to start using it again and needing to access it, like any normal person with a garage would, or even came to sell the property, a whacking great fence in front of it has got to be, surely, the stupidest idea ever?
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