38 in a 30

Johno100

gpc273 wrote: »

"Holier than though brigade" or simply people who don't charge around well over the posted limit and have consideration for other road users. I'll put myself in the second category, OP as an LGV driver you could receive an invitation for a chat with the local TC who can impose additional sanctions on your licence above anything a court imposes.

Scaremongering nonsense.

gpc273

Not at all, I personally know several LGV drivers who have fallen foul of the TC for just this reason. I work in the LGV industry, do you?

dacouch

gpc273 wrote: »

Not at all, I personally know several LGV drivers who have fallen foul of the TC for just this reason. I work in the LGV industry, do you?

I've heard this as well, Traffic Officers will often not note down the vehicle was a HGV/LGV when issuing a speeding ticket or not note down you're a professional driver if ticketed in a private car if you pass the attitude test.

gpc273

Here you go, it was easier to find this from a 3rd hand source than the actual TC's site:

http://www.truckuk.net/operator-licensing/role-traffic-commissioner/

Traffic Commissioners’ Hearings

It is the Traffic Commissioner who ultimately decides whether to call an operator or driver to a hearing. This allows a Traffic Commissioner the opportunity to examine the applicant or licence holders, before reaching a decision on whether to grant or refuse an application or to take action against the licence holder.

These hearings are termed ‘Public Inquiries’, but allow more flexibility than the courts to achieve the object of safe, reliable and fair transport of passengers and goods. If the Traffic Commissioner is not satisfied that a person should hold an operator’s licence then they can refuse that licence; if an existing operator does not keep to the rules designed to ensure road safety and fair competition then they can reduce the number of vehicles that they can run under the licence, suspend or revoke that licence and so stop them from running the relevant vehicles; they can also disqualify people from and/or stop them from being involved with the operation of a goods or public service transport business; or take less drastic action, depending on what is most proportionate.

The letter calling an operator or applicant to the inquiry, commonly known as the “calling in letter” explains why it a Public Inquiry has been called and gives details of the legislation that it has been called under, together with the evidence that the Traffic Commissioner will consider.

Johno100

gpc273 wrote: »

Not at all, I personally know several LGV drivers who have fallen foul of the TC for just this reason. I work in the LGV industry, do you?

Doing 38 in a 30 (or similar)? They must be under worked or over staffed if they would call that in. BTW, while the OP used the term "truck" in his opening post, we do not know what he was driving.

Car_54

gpc273 wrote: »

Here you go, it was easier to find this from a 3rd hand source than the actual TC's site:

http://www.truckuk.net/operator-licensing/role-traffic-commissioner/

Traffic Commissioners’ Hearings

It is the Traffic Commissioner who ultimately decides whether to call an operator or driver to a hearing. This allows a Traffic Commissioner the opportunity to examine the applicant or licence holders, before reaching a decision on whether to grant or refuse an application or to take action against the licence holder.

These hearings are termed ‘Public Inquiries’, but allow more flexibility than the courts to achieve the object of safe, reliable and fair transport of passengers and goods. If the Traffic Commissioner is not satisfied that a person should hold an operator’s licence then they can refuse that licence; if an existing operator does not keep to the rules designed to ensure road safety and fair competition then they can reduce the number of vehicles that they can run under the licence, suspend or revoke that licence and so stop them from running the relevant vehicles; they can also disqualify people from and/or stop them from being involved with the operation of a goods or public service transport business; or take less drastic action, depending on what is most proportionate.

The letter calling an operator or applicant to the inquiry, commonly known as the “calling in letter” explains why it a Public Inquiry has been called and gives details of the legislation that it has been called under, together with the evidence that the Traffic Commissioner will consider.

All of that seems to be about Operator's Licences, not driving licences, as indicated in the link.

RS2000.

Car_54 wrote: »

All of that seems to be about Operator's Licences, not driving licences, as indicated in the link.

He's not altogether wrong, I have seen the TC remove someone's vocational entitlement. Can't stop him driving a truck but can stop someone making a living from it.

gpc273

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/small_business/commercial_transport/vans_and_lorries/driving_conduct_for_larger_vehicles_minibuses_or_buses/10444.html

Read the bottom paragraph.

doningtonphil

why in choosing points + fine or speed awareness course would you NOT go for the course?


You will be paying with either option, you can go on a Saturday afternoon and there is no record of it on your driving record.


I attended the course in Carlisle (snapped in Derbyshire) as I live in Scotland. They have even moved the course venue to the top side of Carlisle (adjacent M6) to make it even more convenient for people living in Scotland to get to!


Unlimited tea, coffee, orange juice, and water.


The course was very informative, it really did change my view of driving. There were surprisingly few 'horror videos'. As everyone left, we all shook the instructors hand and expressed appreciation for his time. I would go so far as to say to recommend anyone go on the course (although it is exclusively offered to those who have broken the law).


The theme was all about observation and awareness. We all assumed the road outside the hotel approaching the roundabout was 40 or maybe 30. It was him that told us to look out for the derestriction signs next time that indicted 70mph is allowable if safe to do so.

lee8040

dacouch wrote: »

Not all forces will offer a speeding awareness course for a plated vehicle as the professional drivers are expected to know better than to speed.

Most forces will allow a speeding course in the OP's situation providing it's the first speeding in the last (Typically) three years

I've never been done for speeding