advise on infared please

System

Just a update on the infrared heating system.

My housing came out on Tuesday to discuss the system and asked if id like to trial it. I agreed as they also says that if the new system costs more to run they will cover my electric bill and i can have the system removed and have new storage heaters installed.

The company is coming out later this month to measure the flat and explain in more detail, so fingers crossed that the new infrared heating system is as good as what my housing has been told.

Richie-from-the-Boro

mackemps3 wrote: »

Just a update on the infrared heating system.

My housing came out on Tuesday to discuss the system and asked if id like to trial it. I agreed as they also says that if the new system costs more to run they will cover my electric bill and i can have the system removed and have new storage heaters installed.

The company is coming out later this month to measure the flat and explain in more detail, so fingers crossed that the new infrared heating system is as good as what my housing has been told.

big subsidy grants to the Housing Association for pushing 'green - installation cost for 13a infra a fraction of the cost of NSCH - it will cost three times as many £'s for the same °C

- sold, a score, nice one
- of course they did
- of course you did

they will cover my electric bill and i can have the system removed and have new storage heaters installed

- of course they did
- get it in writing, and get a solicitor to check the agreement

Best of luck mackemps3.

lstar337

mackemps3 wrote: »

Just a update on the infrared heating system.

My housing came out on Tuesday to discuss the system and asked if id like to trial it. I agreed as they also says that if the new system costs more to run they will cover my electric bill and i can have the system removed and have new storage heaters installed.

I guess you have nothing to lose, but I would get those terms put in writing and make sure you are perfectly happy before you agree to anything.

mackemps3 wrote: »

The company is coming out later this month to measure the flat and explain in more detail, so fingers crossed that the new infrared heating system is as good as what my housing has been told.

I doubt it is as good as they say. Make sure the trial covers a winter, preferably a cold one although neither you or they have control over the weather.

matelodave

How will they work out whether your heating bill is more or less? What happens if you decide to have the place a lot warmer or the winter is a lot colder? What happens to your hot water?


As said, make sure you've got it all in writing

Cardew

mackemps3 wrote: »

Just a update on the infrared heating system.

My housing came out on Tuesday to discuss the system and asked if id like to trial it. I agreed as they also says that if the new system costs more to run they will cover my electric bill and i can have the system removed and have new storage heaters installed.

The company is coming out later this month to measure the flat and explain in more detail, so fingers crossed that the new infrared heating system is as good as what my housing has been told.

You have been scammed! - or at least on the way to being scammed.

System

Cardew wrote: »

You have been scammed! - or at least on the way to being scammed.

How have i been scammed its just a trial surly its worth trying if it does cost more my housing will be paying the bill.

Saying that i agree with you as i can see it costing a lot more to use than NSH.

I will let you know next week what the company has to say when they come out to measure up.

I will send you the website of the company in a private message just incase people think i am sending scam or tryng to get people to buy the heaters, cheers

Cardew

mackemps3 wrote: »

How have i been scammed its just a trial surly its worth trying if it does cost more my housing will be paying the bill.

Saying that i agree with you as i can see it costing a lot more to use than NSH.

So you can have all your IR heating on at maximum all year, and use as much Hot Water as you wish and the Housing Association will pay the difference? For Ever? Really?


As you say, heating and hot water will obviously cost more than NSH; so what is the purpose of the trial?


If the Housing Association are going to pick up the bill for any increase in your electricity bill - forever, then go for IR heating. Leave the immersion heater on 24/7, get a big electrical patio heater, use a tumble dryer frequently, house a little cold? use several 3kW fan heaters(costing £10) - open widows if it gets too hot.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Gentoo are tiny in the HA world and are manically determined green warriors and disciples of anything that in their words """ improves the art of living beyond our imagination, by investing the well-being of the planet""" They own their own solar panel manufacturing and specialist glass-maker, Romag. Entirely driven by low carbon anything its easy to see how infra heating is top of their push objectives at any cost. The danger here is that subsidising a trial with promises of gold and diamond guarantees is of itself a false prophet. Wishy washy outcomes like those of other well known purveyors of infra product do as we know nothing to deliver affordable heating costs.

Having said all of the above they have retrofitted about 3,000 dwelling HRS EWI and DG along with boilers which they claim [I'd like to see objective evidence of the cost outcomes] a 25% saved on each home around @ £125 on PA average. One of their recent unsurprisingly unsuccessful initiatives was to get the CCG to ' allow GP’s to prescribe boilers to poorly patients '. Lets see in a year or two how this reality pans out.

NOTE to my doctor: Can I have an appointment and "can I have a prescription for triple glazing, external wall insulation and that infra heating that improves my "well being" all installed cost free by the taxpayer - oh! and the running costs must be guaranteed cheaper forever. Thank you doctor.

matelodave

I agree with the others that this is not a good idea and that this time next year you'll be on the forum asking how to reclaim your greatly increased leccy bill from either the landlord or heater supplier who will have scuttled back into the woodwork and denied all knowledge.

If something sounds too good to be true, then it probably is - as the saying goes Caveat Emptor. I know you aren't buying them but it's you who will be lumbered with them if they don't work as promised.

I personally wouldn't touch them with a barge pole

Owain_Moneysaver

mackemps3 wrote: »

My housing came out on Tuesday to discuss the system and asked if id like to trial it. I agreed as they also says that if the new system costs more to run they will cover my electric bill

That still means you have to pay for the electricity up front and then try and claim it back from the HA.

If the heating system is already well-proven why do the HA need to 'trial' it?

If it's a genuine trial then you should be paid for the inconvenience of having your system changed, and I'd expect electricity and temperature logging to be installed as well so that the HA can track energy use and temperature for evaluation.