Sanctions' figures

Mersey_2

In 2014, 605,595 JSA claimants had their benefits stopped (sanctioned).


This is a fall from the peak of 899,576 in 2013, in line with the falling JSA claimant count.


However, ESA claimants saw sanctions rise by a third.

tea-bag

You want free money play by the rules and you won't get sanctioned simple.

It amazes me how many people see sanctions as a bad thing??? You have to jump through some hoops just like people who have to work!

backdoorwarrior

tea-bag wrote: »

You want free money play by the rules and you won't get sanctioned simple.

It amazes me how many people see sanctions as a bad thing??? You have to jump through some hoops just like people who have to work!

i think the problem is the increase in disabled people being sanctioned

tomtontom

backdoorwarrior wrote: »

i think the problem is the increase in disabled people being sanctioned

Disabled people should not be exempt from sanctions, so long as they are applied fairly. The stats don't really tell us anything, we don't know the reasons behind why they were applied.

wiltsguy_2

tomtontom wrote: »

Disabled people should not be exempt from sanctions, so long as they are applied fairly. The stats don't really tell us anything, we don't know the reasons behind why they were applied.

Agreed, adhere to the laws or lose the free wonga!

backdoorwarrior

tomtontom wrote: »

Disabled people should not be exempt from sanctions, so long as they are applied fairly. The stats don't really tell us anything, we don't know the reasons behind why they were applied.

they just tell us that more disabled people are being sanctioned.

though interesting that sanctions have fallen generally. no idea why the conservatives did not make more noise about this to counter claims that they are killing off the poor.

billywilly

backdoorwarrior wrote: »

they just tell us that more disabled people are being sanctioned.

though interesting that sanctions have fallen generally. no idea why the conservatives did not make more noise about this to counter claims that they are killing off the poor.

Who said anything about the 'disabled' being sanctioned? Only those in the Work Group of ESA can be sanctioned and given the name of the group, those that are in it are supposed to be getting ready to go back to work.
This would not apply to those in the Support Group.

And you need not be disabled to claim ESA.

And why state that those on ESA are poor? You can be a multi millionaire and still receive ESA.

backdoorwarrior

billywilly wrote: »

Who said anything about the 'disabled' being sanctioned? Only those in the Work Group of ESA can be sanctioned and given the name of the group, those that are in it are supposed to be getting ready to go back to work.
This would not apply to those in the Support Group.

And you need not be disabled to claim ESA.

And why state that those on ESA are poor? You can be a multi millionaire and still receive ESA.

ok, ill or disabled people are being sanctioned.

and you can be disabled and still work. just obviously they should be treating these people with kid gloves a little more.

i think there should be stages of back to work for people on ESA, to ease them into this.

tomtontom

backdoorwarrior wrote: »

ok, ill or disabled people are being sanctioned.

and you can be disabled and still work. just obviously they should be treating these people with kid gloves a little more.

i think there should be stages of back to work for people on ESA, to ease them into this.

There are stages of back to work for people on ESA - permitted work and disabled WTC.

giddypenguin

I understand sanctions are needed to ensure people do not take the Michael out of the system. However, the harsh use of sanctions as a punishment, without fair warning for minor breaches of the rules, often without right of appeal outlined were seen as unfair.

This is in some cases (although not all, I grant you) the only (very limited) income of a person. How stopping people's only source of income for weeks on end is conductive to them getting a job is beyond me. How could you go on to search for a job when you have no money, are worrying about your next meal, heating or electric. Not to mention how you are supposed to get ready for an interview if you can't afford to wash your clothes/have a shower/get the bus...

backdoorwarrior

giddypenguin wrote: »

I understand sanctions are needed to ensure people do not take the Michael out of the system. However, the harsh use of sanctions as a punishment, without fair warning for minor breaches of the rules, often without right of appeal outlined were seen as unfair.

This is in some cases (although not all, I grant you) the only (very limited) income of a person. How stopping people's only source of income for weeks on end is conductive to them getting a job is beyond me. How could you go on to search for a job when you have no money, are worrying about your next meal, heating or electric. Not to mention how you are supposed to get ready for an interview if you can't afford to wash your clothes/have a shower/get the bus...

This is what the public wanted though. We've essentially gone back in time to the period of workhouses etc.