Free mobile voice, text and data plans coming to UK ( Freedompop )

buglawton

glennstar wrote: »

Prowla,
There's no point investing your time and energy in a product from a company with an unsustainable business model, so making sure the company gets a fair return for the products it offers is essential - which is a joint responsibility on the part of the company and the customer.

Ovivo did provide subscription (paid for) services and it's inability (their fault not yours) to convert the advert watching base to paid subscriptions contributed to its demise. It wasn't the only reason of course. They couldn't grow their customer base quickly enough to reach the required economies of scale, they couldn't get the right number of advertisers on board at the right prices, they had many technical issues with their MNO and systems integrator, many of their customers sidestepped the engagement process and, finally, just watching the Ads is not enough. The Advertiser wants engagement and conversion - which I think is the reason none of these propositions will be self sustaining.

I noticed how poorly targeted Ovivos ads were, could feel they were going to fold, only surprise was the suddenness of it. Ovivos team did very efficiently release everyone's PAC numbers, give them that.

mobilejunkie

glennstar wrote: »

Really interesting list of posts about people being excited that this proposition is coming to the UK.

It's a shame that the number of posts appear to be equal only by the number trying not to pay these guys any money. This MVNO will fail in the same way Ovivo did if people do not pay a fair rate for the service they receive. The business case relies on you paying them money. If you don't they will run out of cash and then get turned off by the host network(s) - in exactly the same way Ovivo did!

I am happy to use them for free. All my mobile contracts are better than free, so why should I pay something to them? There are always others who are happy to pay. I'm not. If they can't survive without any contribution from me they should change their business model to accomodate that.

glennstar

mobilejunkie wrote: »

I am happy to use them for free. All my mobile contracts are better than free, so why should I pay something to them? There are always others who are happy to pay. I'm not. If they can't survive without any contribution from me they should change their business model to accomodate that.

You sound like someone who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Ask yourself "when I finally shed this mortal coil, who will remember me for the generous deeds I have performed?". I suspect in your case it's going to be a pretty short list.

mobilejunkie

I have no intention of lining the pockets of networks. That's a game for mugs like you.

prowla

glennstar wrote: »

Prowla,
There's no point investing your time and energy in a product from a company with an unsustainable business model, so making sure the company gets a fair return for the products it offers is essential - which is a joint responsibility on the part of the company and the customer.

Ovivo did provide subscription (paid for) services and it's inability (their fault not yours) to convert the advert watching base to paid subscriptions contributed to its demise. It wasn't the only reason of course. They couldn't grow their customer base quickly enough to reach the required economies of scale, they couldn't get the right number of advertisers on board at the right prices, they had many technical issues with their MNO and systems integrator, many of their customers sidestepped the engagement process and, finally, just watching the Ads is not enough. The Advertiser wants engagement and conversion - which I think is the reason none of these propositions will be self sustaining.

You could be right there.

Mind you, I only had an Ovivo SIM as a spare.

tronator

tronator wrote: »

yes, the FP's messaging app seems to hijack all outgoing calls. If you don't make calls through FP, then just uninstall the app. Alternatively force close it before you make the call (Settings -> Apps -> Messaging -> Force Stop).

The latest update seems to have solved that problem. Now I'm asked whether I want to use FP or my other SIM card.

19lottie82

Can anyone advise me re the new "free" network "freedom pop"?

I've ordered a SIM card and I'm tempted as it looks like I can get a whole load of minutes / texts and 2.5gb of data for about £6 a month, without having to faff about claiming cashback.

I'm just worried, in case it goes under (like the last free network, I forget it's name), and I can get a PAC code to keep my number, which I've had for 12 years.

Does anyone have any reviews / advice / comments?

TIA:beer:

sdduk

19lottie82 wrote: »

Can anyone advise me re the new "free" network "freedom pop"?

I've ordered a SIM card and I'm tempted as it looks like I can get a whole load of minutes / texts and 2.5gb of data for about £6 a month, without having to faff about claiming cashback.

I'm just worried, in case it goes under (like the last free network, I forget it's name), and I can get a PAC code to keep my number, which I've had for 12 years.

Does anyone have any reviews / advice / comments?

TIA:beer:

I was with them and a couple of months ago i left and transferred my number from them to a new network.

I was on the Free 200mins 200text 200mb voice mins was over network like skype and was quite bad it should be ok if its normal voice calls like the £6 you said i can't see it going under yet because there's lots of people paying for the service as well as free.

System

It uses VOIP so the call quality can be ropey and doesn't offer any 2G fallback in non-urban areas.

You can get 1.5GB for £5.95 from Life Mobile (EE) or 2GB for £7.50 from Talkmobile (Voda)

Ian011

Unresponsive to requests to publish a full tariff list.

Recommend avoid with a wide berth.