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brightontraveller

the_r_sole wrote: »

Yeah, we spend all day specifying products to plasterers...but tell me again why you think a stair in this situation is exempt from regs

I have already posted the work arounds and situations which can be used to install the steps and even the different types and if you bothered to read the planning portal web site itself it says which in there own words “is likely” “are likely “ and “ will need ” that slight is the difference to needing BC approval or not ,,, Its down to what you say and how you approach them….? office full of architects not one knows that [FONT=&quot]:rotfl:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Now some might call that a work aroun[FONT=&quot]d, avoidance, [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]bodge [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]whatever [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]in the end its [/FONT] that’s more down to the quality of the work done seen plenty of stairs built to BC spec fall to bit etc [/FONT]

System

brightontraveller wrote: »

I have already posted the work arounds and situations which can be used to install the steps and even the different types and if you bothered to read the planning portal web site itself it says which in there own words “is likely” “are likely “ and “ will need ” that slight is the difference to needing BC approval or not ,,, Its down to what you say and how you approach them….? office full of architects not one knows that [FONT=&quot]:rotfl:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Now some might call that a work aroun[FONT=&quot]d, avoidance, [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot]bodge [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]whatever [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]in the end its [/FONT] that’s more down to the quality of the work done seen plenty of stairs built to BC spec fall to bit etc [/FONT]

you better get on your horse before the sheriff rolls into town...:eek:

brightontraveller

the_r_sole wrote: »

you better get on your horse before the sheriff rolls into town...:eek:

If you have a mirror you’ll no what a cowboy looks like :rotfl:

System

brightontraveller wrote: »

If you have a mirror you’ll no what a cowboy looks like :rotfl:

maybe you should stop rolling on the floor for a while and do some reading, even the definition of a cowboy builder would be good to start, or maybe you could read up on the application of building regulations, or the roles of the local authority in development :money:

brightontraveller

I knew you wouldn’t understand but this is not assisting poster so I’ll leave you to spout on “ have a nice day “ and at the end of the day if BC say you don't need it then thats up to them...

System

brightontraveller wrote: »

I knew you wouldn’t understand

I understand perfectly, it's a day job for some of us

brightontraveller wrote: »

but this is not assisting poster so I’ll leave you to spout on

nothing you have spouted has assisted the poster apart from giving them incorrect "advice"

brightontraveller wrote: »

“ have a nice day “ and at the end of the day if BC say you don't need it then thats up to them...

you're right, so please, let's hear of a precedent with the current regulations where building control have said a new fixed stair doesn't have to comply with regs, or where altering a structure hasn't required regs or that you can do whatever you like unless you are going to sell your house....

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brightontraveller

the_r_sole wrote: »

I understand perfectly, it's a day job for some of us


nothing you have spouted has assisted the poster apart from giving them incorrect "advice"




you're right, so please, let's hear of a precedent with the current regulations where building control have said a new fixed stair doesn't have to comply with regs, or where altering a structure hasn't required regs or that you can do whatever you like unless you are going to sell your house....

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Again your altering structure poster not stated that and again look on there portal for what they state “will likely ” “is likely” and “will need” Where do you believe BC store information of works that are not in there remit…. If you want appeals thats different then https://www.gov.uk/building-regulations-appeals--6

System

brightontraveller wrote: »

Again your altering structure poster not stated that and again look on there portal for what they state “will likely ” “is likely” and “will need” Where do you believe BC store information of works that are not in there remit…. If you want appeals thats different then https://www.gov.uk/building-regulations-appeals--6

I deal with them on a daily basis - to fit a compliant stair you will have to alter a roof structure - this is because you require 900mm width min and 2m clear head room, in all my time I have never seen an existing roof structure that would allow it, however if there was a suitable sized opening fitting a fixed stair would still require to meet regulations for access/fire safety. The designation of the rooms is not accounted for when a fixed stair is introduced and I have never seen an alternative interpretation under the current regs in either england or scotland.

it's fairly basic stuff and I can't believe you are still of the opinion that this would be exempt from regs given all of the evidence presented otherwise and not a single piece presented by you to back your opinion up - it's completely pointless to discuss statutory regulations with someone that choses to ignore what is shown to them in favour of the things not shown to them - completely past caring now, i'll leave you roll about on the floor like the true professional you are...

brightontraveller

the_r_sole wrote: »

I deal with them on a daily basis - to fit a compliant stair you will have to alter a roof structure - this is because you require 900mm width min and 2m clear head room, in all my time I have never seen an existing roof structure that would allow it, however if there was a suitable sized opening fitting a fixed stair would still require to meet regulations for access/fire safety. The designation of the rooms is not accounted for when a fixed stair is introduced and I have never seen an alternative interpretation under the current regs in either england or scotland.

it's fairly basic stuff and I can't believe you are still of the opinion that this would be exempt from regs given all of the evidence presented otherwise and not a single piece presented by you to back your opinion up - it's completely pointless to discuss statutory regulations with someone that choses to ignore what is shown to them in favour of the things not shown to them - completely past caring now, i'll leave you roll about on the floor like the true professional you are...

You don’t even know what plaster to put on a wall but you know all about construction, planning etc :T:T:T.whoopee I’ve dealt with them for 30 years already stated the stairs can be there for a verity of reason and different designs that they don’t even acknowledge are stairs. tell you where to look but you just go of on another tangent give up everything you say is correct

System

brightontraveller wrote: »

You don’t even know what plaster to put on a wall but you know all about construction, planning etc :T:T:T.whoopee I’ve dealt with them for 30 years already stated the stairs can be there for a verity of reason and different designs that they don’t even acknowledge are stairs. tell you where to look but you just go of on another tangent give up everything you say is correct

Hahaha, I asked a question about a fireplace I was sorting out and suddenly I should be struck off the register?! I know that I don't know everything and always look to improve my understanding... Sounds like you stopped listening or trying to improve your knowledge 30,years ago!
I work day in day out dealing with statutory applications under current regulation, I don't have to tidy up a tiled fireplace every day - sorry for the huge gap in my knowledge there... You really are the big man eh?