Nice People Thread No. 14, all Nice and Proper

mystic_trev

Wheezy wrote: »

Hmmm...where shall I go?
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Try this?

http://www.sundancehelicopters.com/grand-canyon/vip-deluxe/

Expensive, but worth every penny. Helicopters can fly through and land in the Canyon. Aircraft have to fly above it.

GDB2222

mystic_trev wrote: »

Try this?

http://www.sundancehelicopters.com/grand-canyon/vip-deluxe/

Expensive, but worth every penny. Helicopters can fly through and land in the Canyon. Aircraft have to fly above it.

How long does the flight last? I ask because it is around a 500 to 600 mile round trip, and they say the entire trip takes 3.5 hours 'hotel to hotel', ie including the car journey to join the helicopter. As these helicopters cruise at 150 mph, it doesn't add up.

Edit. My mistake. It's Only 350 miles return in a straight line. So, even with the detours to see the other sights, it may be doable in under 3 hours flying.

vivatifosi

When in Vegas we drove to the Grand Canyon by coach and then stayed over in a local hotel. From memory, it was about a 3 hour drive... doable even by coach as a day trip and so certainly possible by helicopter.

When we got to the rim, it was possible to book a chopper there, which cuts the cost a bit though I'm not sure whether you'd see the Hoover Dam that way. We couldn't do this as there was a storm moving in so they were all grounded. Then we had to leave the rim on foot too as the storm system made people's hair stand up on end... apparently a sign than electrical activity is imminent. A good time to escape back to the hotel.

Spirit_2

Generali wrote: »

I suspect it's the PRIME-MD questionnaire. There's a bit more to it than just the score, for example it is important to look at how the answers are arranged and some things are more troublesome than others. For example something answering 'nearly every day' to the question, ' How often in the last 2 weeks have you had thoughts that you would be better off dead or of hurting yourself in some way?' would score 3 points as would answering the same thing to 'How many times in the last fortnight have you had little pleasure in doing things'?

Overall, a score of 6, probably out of 27 being 9 questions with each answer worth 0-3 points is likely to show someone with pretty normal life responses to stress. I reckon I would score about 3-4. A sample of questions is:

Over the last 2 weeks , how often have you been bothered by any of the following:

Little interest or pleasure in doing things?
Feeling down, depressed, or hopeless?
Trouble falling or staying asleep, or sleeping too much?
Feeling tired or having little energy?
Poor appetite or overeating?
Feeling bad about yourself — or that you are a failure or have let yourself or your family down?
Trouble concentrating on things, such as reading the newspaper or watching television?
Moving or speaking so slowly that other people could have noticed? Or the opposite — being so fidgety or restless that you have been moving around a lot more than usual?
Thoughts that you would be better off dead or of hurting yourself in some way?

Score 0 for not at all, 1 for several days, 2 for more than half the days and 3 for nearly every day.

I think this needs context in its interpretation I would score 2-3 on each of , trouble sleeping, feeling tired,concentrating. Not depressed at all but stroke related for two of them and caffeine in diet coke/late night espresso in sociable/happy eveningsi influencing the sleep .

I have had depression at times and it is grim.

There is a saying that "you can only be as happy as your unhappiest child" . DD is happy at present and that makes a huge difference to me. Me being a SAHM is novel, and of benefit to her directly now. She is going on holiday tomorrow and I have washed and ironed all of her holiday clothes so she just has to choose and pack.

The barometer of her happiness? She had her car valeted yesterday.Ultimate sign of being on top of things, as her car was like a skip, floor and plastic door bits filthy from muddy boots a thick coating of dust on the dash and old receipts, carp and crumbs everywhere boot crammed with riding gear and scewed up work clothes she has changed out of. I took her 45 minutes to empty it to be able to take it to be cleaned. It is only an i10.

LydiaJ

I would score 2 on the "little pleasure or interest" and sleeping things, 3 on the tiredness (well, I would during term time, anyway), 1 on the trouble concentrating, and 0 on everything else. I still think that what is wrong with me is not depression, although I accept that I am not fine.

My new counsellor is excellent - so much more of a good fit to what I need than the one I tried last year. When I try to say how frustrated I am with the things I'm not managing to do, the old one used to say I was being too hard on myself and shouldn't worry about it. This one says I am being too hard on myself and should aim for much smaller steps forwards so that they are achievable, and then suggests some. I've seen her 3 times now and I think there is really some potential to get unstuck if I keep with her process.

Sue, I hope the doctor listens properly to you when you see her on Monday. Perhaps she was just in a hurry or something and will do better when she's got you in front of her and can see from your questionnaire how low your depression score is. But if she is still barking up the wrong tree on Monday, then you must make an appointment to see a different doctor, even if you have to wait for the appointment. Is there a doctor at the practice who's been helpful to you in the past and understands your history? Can you tell the receptionist that you need to see that doctor for reasons of continuity?

SingleSue

I scored 6 from the questions on moving very slowly (I can't do fast anymore) and on the feeling tired/little energy as that is actually my constant...usually due to trying to overdo things!

She'll probably not be happy with my sleeping pattern (5 hours a night, 6 on a really good one) but for me, that is an improvement on my usual and apart from when youngest keeps me awake, it is in one go, a huge improvement on even a year ago when I would struggle to get to sleep night after night and even then I would be waking up all the time. Short sleeping times is just me, I have always been like it, even as a child and is more to do with an over active mind than with anything else...my brain gets bored when I am asleep and needs information!

I have no problems with concentration apart from when very tired or when I have overdone things but even then, I can still sit and read a book, I just avoid driving the car where more complex concentration is required.

One of the biggest changes for me is the getting pleasure or looking forward to things, I can go out now and boy do I look forward to those nights out and want to do it more and going forward, I am optimistic about the future...I am getting my life back bit by bit!

I suppose that is why I feel so insulted at the suggestion, I have been working hard on improving my mental health and how I feel about myself, taking control of my future and my health (the weight loss, trying to increase my exercise - this is one of the bits I wanted help with from the doctor as my way is injuring things) and when I have finally come full circle and become much more like the old me, depression is suggested! Oh and the fact she has decided it on just 4 words, no examination, no further questions (or the chance for me to elaborate on what I want) and making an instant judgment based on the fact I have disabled children.

Gone are the days of hiding away in my house, looking around the world through a veil of black, being disassociative, stressing about any little thing, eating to excess through being sad/lonely etc or alternatively, starving myself (I've always had a pretty messed up relationship with food). I have taken control of my life...I have stepped off the weird and unhappy merry go round that was my life for over 15 years and it is feeling good.

She will certainly be getting short shrift if she continues with her suggestion tomorrow, one of the bonuses of getting my confidence and self esteem back is I am now able to be blunt about things and able to voice my opinion rather than the meek and suggestable person I have been...I am more like the 1991 force to be reckoned with Sue than the 2005 completely in bits one.

Generali

LydiaJ wrote: »

I would score 2 on the "little pleasure or interest" and sleeping things, 3 on the tiredness (well, I would during term time, anyway), 1 on the trouble concentrating, and 0 on everything else. I still think that what is wrong with me is not depression, although I accept that I am not fine.

The first major insight I had when I first studied psychology is that most people to some extent exhibit most of the symptoms of most mental illnesses.

GDB2222

Lydia, a lot of the teachers I know seem to be exhausted during term time.

GDB2222

Generali wrote: »

The first major insight I had when I first studied psychology is that most people to some extent exhibit most of the symptoms of most mental illnesses.

Everybody is at least slightly autistic.

Wheezy_2

mystic_trev wrote: »

Try this?

http://www.sundancehelicopters.com/grand-canyon/vip-deluxe/

Expensive, but worth every penny. Helicopters can fly through and land in the Canyon. Aircraft have to fly above it.

The Grand Canyin trip is planned for Friday:) Went onto the strip, had a look at the fountain show at the Bellagio, the Mirage, then ended up in Planet Hollywood . Some others of the party went to see a Britney show but i'm not into Britney so I went to play slots and got !!!!ed on bottles of coors 8.75 for a bottle this is not very mse, have to get up in 4 hours for the hoover dam trip, nite nite all