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Poll : What do you think of the NEW LOOK MSE

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  • InvestInPoker
    InvestInPoker Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    we risk the fact google will no longer list it



    And here is the reason why imo. Goddamn you Google :(
  • Mandelbrot
    Mandelbrot Posts: 9,139 Forumite
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    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    The 'you can switch back' for a short while - is not correct. You can switch back and we've no plans to switch off the old style. Though of course as we hope in time virtually no one is using it we will switch it off then.

    Ignoring the logical inconsistency in the above, does this mean that when/if the only users of the current 'style' are those who have to use it because of visual issues with the new 'style', that is the point at which you will remove it?
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Mandelbrot wrote: »
    No. You are simply giving us your opinions, like the rest of us are.
    Many sites have suffered significant losses in user numbers as a result of changing layouts. People tend to be particularly annoyed when they end up with a less user-friendly interface, as in this case.

    What MSE Towers don't seem to have taken on board is that websites (or subsets of sites) are often set up for very different purposes, requiring different user interfaces.
    The forum is not used by users in the same way that the main site is.
    No. Its not just my opinion - its been proven time and time again, even with changes to this sites template in the past.

    What a lot of the regulars don't realise is that the site can and will run perfectly well without them. Most of the people who are complaining would stick around even if the new template was forced on them. And of those that did actually leave, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make any money for the business behind MSE anyway.

    This site and forum is far too big to be troubled by a few hundred or even thousands of regular users leaving. There is a huge archive of useful information that will still be here for years to come and will continue to attract new users all the time.

    Its a moot point now anyway as Martin has already confirmed that the old template will still be available.
  • Floss
    Floss Posts: 9,020 Forumite
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    The new format needs work if it is to be usable on Windows phones - it was very difficult to navigate to the new posts on the few threads I read.
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  • Mrs_Bones
    Mrs_Bones Posts: 15,524 Forumite
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    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    HI folks

    The 'you can switch back' for a short while - is not correct. You can switch back and we've no plans to switch off the old style. Though of course as we hope in time virtually no one is using it we will switch it off then.

    As for "you wont win people around by saying people just like change". I am not trying to win anyone around. I am aware lots of people don't like it whether due to change resistence or genuine preference. Yet we have to do what we believe is right for the forum - and I believe this is correct - and the buck stops with me.

    Yet the key point is - if you're a registered member you can choose for yourself. :)

    If you leave us with a permanent choice of which style site we use I'll be fine with that Martin but that is not what was indicated today to everyone.

    It's not just about saying people don't like change, that new site design genuinely made me feel physically ill, it hurt my eyes, caused a headache which then progressed to nausea and that was just after a short time of use trying to get back to the old style format. Reading others comments I wasn't the only one it was having such ill effects on either.

    I've commented this week elsewhere that I don't like the BBC site new look but at least it does not make me feel physically sick. I will get use to the BBC site and continue to use it but if you ever change this site to the new style for all users than I won't have any choice but to leave, you will have forced me out by your instance on a new design that I found anything but comfortable to use. I hope you stick to your word Martin and leave the old style available for those of us who wish to use it, I'd be sad to leave this forum but I'd simply have no choice in the matter.
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  • Yolina
    Yolina Posts: 2,262 Forumite
    lovinituk wrote: »
    What a lot of the regulars don't realise is that the site can and will run perfectly well without them. Most of the people who are complaining would stick around even if the new template was forced on them.

    Oh MSE will run just fine without me, just as I can function perfectly well without MSE ;) And no, I wouldn't hang around if the new layout was the only option available.
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  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Yolina wrote: »
    Oh MSE will run just fine without me, just as I can function perfectly well without MSE ;) And no, I wouldn't hang around if the new layout was the only option available.
    Exactly what I have been saying. You would be part of the collateral damage that makes absolutely no difference to the bigger picture.
  • jackieb
    jackieb Posts: 27,605 Forumite
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    lovinituk wrote: »
    Exactly what I have been saying. You would be part of the collateral damage that makes absolutely no difference to the bigger picture.

    You're a proper charmer.
  • Blulu
    Blulu Posts: 7,846 Forumite
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    Look guys, change is never easy. I remember when I first started here, it seemed like it took me forever to get used to the set up. Then this sudden change today felt like starting over. I hated it, as most did. But I also knew that I'd get used to it in time, which I will - but only when I have to :D

    Martin and Team MSE, hope you don't mind a couple of friendly suggestions:

    1) It would be nice to have a little warning next time. Unless you did, but I missed it - which is quite possible.

    2) I don't know if this would the same for all the forums, but with Comping, I think it would be easier if these drastic changes happened over a weekend, when there are fewer competitions posted, and when many of us would have a bit more time to spend on getting used to it.

    3) (I lied about there being 2 suggestions) I guess if we hate it that much, we could always demand a refund of our fees ;)

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  • Yolina
    Yolina Posts: 2,262 Forumite
    lovinituk wrote: »
    You would be part of the collateral damage

    Ooooh I'm a potential victim :D I will need one of those no win no fee companies, I can smell compo :rotfl:
    Now free from the incompetence of vodafail
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