Who will win the UK election ?

padington

The Tories are winning the sound bite, 'fix the roof whilst the sun shines' is a great line. If labour is to win I would imagine it needs to challenge this head on with it's own alternative. Sometimes winning and loosing is as simple as that.

Every good salesman knows you need to express your idea or product in a short sentence, has the labour machine really overlooked this ?

Sapphire

The thought of Labour winning, and also in addition teaming up with the SNP, is like a nightmare scenario for me. I'll definitely be voting Conservative.

Jason74

padington wrote: »

The Tories are winning the sound bite, 'fix the roof whilst the sun shines' is a great line. If labour is to win I would imagine it needs to challenge this head on with it's own alternative. Sometimes winning and loosing is as simple as that.

Every good salesman knows you need to express your idea or product in a short sentence, has the labour machine really overlooked this ?

You're right of course, and that is in many ways the most depressing thing of all about the whole campaign. In a few weeks, the nation decides who governs us. This is an election where there is probably more genuine difference between the main parties than for 20 years or more, and where the genuinely multi party nature of the election makes the choices available more complex than ever.

There's something very disturbing about the fact that an election like that will be largely decided not on any of those big issues, but on who has the best sound bites. Maybe we really do get the politicians we deserve.

CLAPTON

Jason74 wrote: »

You're right of course, and that is in many ways the most depressing thing of all about the whole campaign. In a few weeks, the nation decides who governs us. This is an election where there is probably more genuine difference between the main parties than for 20 years or more, and where the genuinely multi party nature of the election makes the choices available more complex than ever.

There's something very disturbing about the fact that an election like that will be largely decided not on any of those big issues, but on who has the best sound bites. Maybe we really do get the politicians we deserve.

Actually there is almost nothing between the policies of the major parties.

It is probably one of the least important elections we have ever had

the chief difference is basically 'how much do we continue to borrow'? : a little, a bit more or more than a bit?

what else divides the parties?

well the promise of a referendum on the EU?

what other big divisions are there?

padington

Jason74 wrote: »

You're right of course, and that is in many ways the most depressing thing of all about the whole campaign. In a few weeks, the nation decides who governs us. This is an election where there is probably more genuine difference between the main parties than for 20 years or more, and where the genuinely multi party nature of the election makes the choices available more complex than ever.

There's something very disturbing about the fact that an election like that will be largely decided not on any of those big issues, but on who has the best sound bites. Maybe we really do get the politicians we deserve.

True but every debate is tended to be won by a killer sentance that sumerises the point really well . Even Will Self will bottle his meanderings for the final assault. An almost deeper problem for Labour I think than us, is the lack of the killer conclusion says something really telling, they don't have a core idea, just a bunch of loose policy's to try to win votes or thank donors.

.string.

CLAPTON wrote: »

... what other big divisions are there?

Well there is the difference in the tax approach

There is how much that tax approach will affect ME ( a different ME for each voter of course)

There is the approach to English Votes for .... etc

There is the approach for Scotland

There is the Commitment to renegotiation of EU terms (a different issue than whether we have a referendum I think)

There is the vulnerability of the Main Governing Party to SNP. UKIP etc and conversely for some the ability of one of those parties to influence the major parities

There is the state of the economy and jobs and whether we think either party will improve them or not

There is the perceived competence of the individuals within the parties

..................


No doubt there are more; how important each one is a matter for each voter.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

I wonder who The Sun will throw their weight behind, although I don't think this has the significance it once did. Is The Express openly UKIP yet? I only read The Racing Post.

MrJester

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

The majority of people don't want any of main parties or numpty candidates.

That is the sad thing about this election. People want an anti Westminster party, and anti bank party, anti big business.... The anti party!

Anti party but pro people.... A party for the majority of poeple not the top 5% which includes MP's.

Totally agree. I want none of the above. The UK doesn't suit this kind of election any longer, we don't want a party we want one person committed to better, not selfish and business deal prime ministry.

N1AK

Generali wrote: »

Good points all.

If Britain keeps voting as they are then in the end one of the lunatic fringe parties (UKIP, SNP, Green) will get in to Government. That might serve to push people back to the main parties.

I'm not sure the genie will go back in the bottle this time. Parties with less than ~7-10 MPs just aren't worth forming a formal coalition with. Other than the SNP, no other 'new' party is close to even getting that many.

You can do a deal, even with parties like Greens/UKIP, where they support your government on key votes in return for a couple of modest concessions. If they want far too much, or require something sufficiently idiotic, then no one can force the agreement to happen.

The British people have cottoned on to the fact 2-3 parties cannot possibly adequately represent the views of everyone. Scots felt they were being taken for granted by the big 3. Bigots felt the Tories and Labour were too socially liberal and have jumped to UKIP. If the parties move to reclaim those votes, they risk losing others (much like the Tories lost mine by jumping right in a panic due to UKIP).

antrobus

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

... Is The Express openly UKIP yet? ....

Pretty much.:)

See for example.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/16/daily-express-website-ipso-ukip-story-nigel-farage