White vans parked all over the place

Iceweasel

stator wrote: »

Either way the council can take action because they can paint double/single yellow lines and introduce parking restrictions.

Oh the locals will love that - that means no-one gets to park!

londonTiger

Iceweasel wrote: »

Oh the locals will love that - that means no-one gets to park!

or extend the residents bays hours of operation to 8:30am to 10pm like in the case of westminster and kensington & chelsea boroughs.

Councils have some power to make their own rules. They can extend parking restriction hours, place double yellow lines outside of residents bay, require businesses to only use their own property to keep their vehicles overnight.

Rules are not set in stone.

The right thing to do is complain and get your neighbours to complain. I see occasionaly the courier companies let their drivers take the vehicles home with them and the drivers park the vehicles in really awkward spots right next to junctions. If it bothers you - complain to the council.

Don't let know-it-all's on money saving expert forums like arcon5 tell you that it's impossible to do anything and the courier company is in the right.

arcon5

Nuisance parking?
who defines that?
Certainly not a resident whoes only concern is the landscape.

if they are not causing an obstruction or parked in an unsafe manner I welcome you to proof me wrong

also, are they really only there for 4 hrs?

daveyjp

Council environmental health department will deal with nuisance from commercial premises close to homes. Just because a commercial unit is close to homes doesn't mean the business unit occupiers can behave as they wish and the problem then becomes one for the homeowner for living too close to a commercial property.

stator

Iceweasel wrote: »

Oh the locals will love that - that means no-one gets to park!

Nope. Council's have all sorts of measures they can use. Permit zones, restrictions only at certain times of the day. They are very good at targetting only the people they wish to. eg no parking 4-5pm resident permit holders exempt.

trollopscarletwoman

I didn't think that commercial vehicles could be parked on the normal road whether taxed, Mot'd, insured and so on outside of working hours. I thought they had to be parked on commercial premises. Not that it bothers me that much. But then, I'm not blind or old.

Around here overnight parking tends to be done on grass verges/pavements on junctions.

colino

Unless the LA has had previous problems that the elected members actually acted upon and made a condition of planning permission containment within the industrial park, little to be done about it.

AdrianC

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

I didn't think that commercial vehicles could be parked on the normal road whether taxed, Mot'd, insured and so on outside of working hours. I thought they had to be parked on commercial premises.

Only where it's a condition of an operator's licence - and, as has been said, that doesn't apply to .5t (which is everything up to the largest of Sprinters and Transits)

Not that it bothers me that much. But then, I'm not blind or old.

An obstruction is an obstruction, no matter what vehicle is causing it. And an obstruction is illegal.

londonTiger

Iceweasel wrote: »

We have a car-sales place in our small town and as well as cars on his forecourt he had cars parked along the road with the prices on the screen.

The house owners nearby complained to the police and the council with the result that he now has cars parked along the road but without prices on.

Where the law falls down is in the wording 'advertised for sale'.

The delivery vans don't appear to be breaking any laws except parking on pathways and/or obstruction.

It's the owner that needs to be put under pressure - not the drivers.

The difficulty lies in proving that the cars are being sold for commercial gain. Without the price on the windscreen it's difficult to prove/disprove that the cars are being sold on the street (unless there is CCTV evidence of a viewing taking place).

When I bought a £2000 car the registered keeper was not the car trader, but the previous owner that the car trader had bought the vehicle from. So it would be impossible for the council to prove in court that the dealer was selling the car on the public road in the absense of signage on the windscreen.

In this instance we have white vans (potentially branded vans), or at least with the company as the registered keeper of a plain white van. Which is going to be much easier to prove that they are overspill from the commercial premises.

im-lost

stator wrote: »

Either way the council can take action because they can paint double/single yellow lines and introduce parking restrictions.

but then where will the complainers park? because that's what this is about, not vans parked, but anyone other than the complainer being able to park there.