MSE News: Legality of private parking fines to be tested in court today

DoaM

To clarify ... is the parking signed as being 1p/min, or have you merely assumed this based on 2 hours (120 mins) costing £1.20 and 4 hours (240 mins) costing £2.40?

And unless you were really 10p short in change ... why didn't you just pay £2.40?

bazster

crustacean wrote: »

Gratuitous rudeness - not wanted around here.

Wow, I didn't realise that a grand total of 4 posts entitled you to act as the Forum Police.

Anyway, if he paid it he's still a fool.

Herzlos

michaels wrote: »

Locally the fish and chip shop relies on trade from people parking for free for about 10-15 minutes whilst they make/collect their orders. If all those spaces were blocked by people parking for 2h 56mins people would not shop there and the fish shop would almost certainly not have enough trade to stay in business...I'm only saying.

We don't seem to have that same problem in Scotland.

bazster

There's no parking enforcement outside my local chip shop. Been there for decades, and thriving.

Ivor_Pecheque

Why can't all you nasty people leave those lovely people at Parking Eye, and that lovely man, Patrick Troy, alone ?

Ivor_Pecheque

this is the joke thread isn't it ?

caymanos

Its not a joke thread if these people (PE) have cost you £200 by threatening a CCJ if you did not respond - the simple facts are my partner parks in a retailers carpark for less than half an hour over free time limit - I am RK and gets demand for 60 quid

I ignore and get debt collecting letters for a debt that does not exist - they have no right to send debt collectors after anyone when there is no debt - I knew nothing of the "contract" she had apparently entered into with PE to park according to their rules - car park was never more than half full and partner was shopping in store where only place to go from this car park was the store in question - she spends money in store then I get penalised/fined for her enjoying visit so much she overstayed - no-one has lost any money - but the PE business model formed by dodgy legal arguments scraped together by an incredibly inefficient and dis-functional 'legal department' at PE banks on collecting as much money as they can extort out of people for as long as they can get away with it.

The money means nothing now to me it is just the sheer injustice of our individual case where last minute change of landowners statement was allowed by judge in chambers even though submission of all information was supposed to be sent in days before. There was discussion of signage where in fact I was not present so signage was irrelevant - I was made to pay because my partner entered into a contract without my knowledge... they won on breach of contract - although saving grace was that judge did not allow any costs so benefit for PE was marginal apart from proving their highly dubious/devious business model - a legal outrage - wrong, wrong, wrong

The_Deep

I ignore and get debt collecting letters for a debt that does not exist - they have no right to send debt collectors after anyone when there is no debt -

But a debt does exist, did they not pay the DVLA £2.50 to obtain RK details?

If a debt does exist, and I think that it does, they have every right to employ a DCA to collect it.

bazster

The_Deep wrote: »

I ignore and get debt collecting letters for a debt that does not exist - they have no right to send debt collectors after anyone when there is no debt -

But a debt does exist, did they not pay the DVLA £2.50 to obtain RK details?

If a debt does exist, and I think that it does, they have every right to employ a DCA to collect it.

No debt exists until a court says it does. This is quite distinct from, say, a regulated consumer credit agreement.

They can of course engage whomever they want to send begging letters on their behalf, subject to compliance with various criminal laws.

Iaino

I hope you all realise that if the parking companies lose these cases and are told that they can only impose maximum penalties of £10 or something, the only thing that will happen is that the car parks will become unprofitable in their current form. As such, they will need to start charging more for people to park there, and the type of car park where you currently get two hours' free parking will become a thing of the past.

So, you might be celebrating the potential downfall of the PPCs today, but I hope you all bear this in mind when from now on you have to pay more every time you park your car because a few people stayed longer than they should have and were too cheap to pay the penalty.