RAC: Millions in private parking fines 'charged illegally'

waamo

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Looking at it from the other side if the PPCs fold and there is no longer any sanction at all for parking in areas that we are not entitled to park in then there will be a free-for-all and none of us will be able to park. People will park in the carpark of the block of flats where YOU live while you are trying to find a parking space in the carpark where they live so that you can get on a bus into town rather than pay the £97.50 per hour it costs to park in the town centre car park.

Perhaps our beloved government will get their wish and force us all onto public transport after all because we'll all be so petrified of someone parking in our parking space we'll never move our cars!

PPC's have only been really active in the past few years. Have they solved a parking chaos that existed? How does the rest of Eirope cope given they don't have PPC's?

Or maybe they just exist to make money for themselves?

HO87

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Looking at it from the other side if the PPCs fold and there is no longer any sanction at all for parking in areas that we are not entitled to park in then there will be a free-for-all and none of us will be able to park. People will park in the carpark of the block of flats where YOU live while you are trying to find a parking space in the carpark where they live so that you can get on a bus into town rather than pay the £97.50 per hour it costs to park in the town centre car park.

Perhaps our beloved government will get their wish and force us all onto public transport after all because we'll all be so petrified of someone parking in our parking space we'll never move our cars!

Complete hogwash. There always has been, currently is and, provided hundreds of years of contract law aren't suddenly overthrown, always will be a remedy. It is called claiming a "genuine pre-estimate of loss" (unless the landowner genuine goes for trespass).

This is EXACTLY the same law the majority of PPC's claim they are using. The problem is that when pressed they simply can't prove that their universal charges represent genuine pre-estimates of loss. Because they aren't.

There are more than enough examples of car parks once infested with PPC's that no longer are and they have not descended into chaos and operate perfectly well without the "controlling" hand of the PPC. In a significant number of instances that "control" amounts to nothing more than the presence of a couple of cameras. Let's be honest, those cameras do not enable anyone - least of all a money grabbing PPC - to "control" anything other than their gravy-train. PPC's should be thanking their lucky stars that the ASA has other fish to fry with regard to misrepresentation given the way in which they describe their systems as offering "management".

Stop swallowing the BPA and IPC "chaos" garbage.

Cygnus_Alpha

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Looking at it from the other side if the PPCs fold and there is no longer any sanction at all for parking in areas that we are not entitled to park in then there will be a free-for-all and none of us will be able to park. People will park in the carpark of the block of flats where YOU live while you are trying to find a parking space in the carpark where they live so that you can get on a bus into town rather than pay the £97.50 per hour it costs to park in the town centre car park.

Perhaps our beloved government will get their wish and force us all onto public transport after all because we'll all be so petrified of someone parking in our parking space we'll never move our cars!

You really are talking rubbish. PPCs are the ones who create parking chaos.

My former workplace has a carpark which is managed without the need for a PPC. Guess what? It has a barrier.

The County Court has a car park with no need for a PPC to manage it. It has a barrier.

There is a block of flats nearby with no need for a PPC to manage it. It has a barrier.

Has the penny dropped yet?

bazster

Umkomaas wrote: »

I always thought your 'tribe' collective was more descriptive than 'clan'!

I suspect Zebedee will soon be making an appearance! Boing!

IIRC it was always suspected that the creators of The Magic Roundabout were on drugs. Maybe Trev and Trouserfire are puffing the same stuff.

bazster

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Looking at it from the other side if the PPCs fold and there is no longer any sanction at all for parking in areas that we are not entitled to park in then there will be a free-for-all and none of us will be able to park. People will park in the carpark of the block of flats where YOU live while you are trying to find a parking space in the carpark where they live so that you can get on a bus into town rather than pay the £97.50 per hour it costs to park in the town centre car park.

Ah, the Carmageddon Scenario! We're doomed, doomed I tell you!

Welcome to the forum Patrick Trouserfire!

HO87

bazster wrote: »

IIRC it was always suspected that the creators of The Magic Roundabout were on drugs. Maybe Trev and Trouserfire are puffing the same stuff.

Haha.

I was always under the impression that the Magic Roundabout was the product of a number of LSD trips but who knows?

As far as Patrick and Our Trev are concerned I have no doubt whatsoever that neither of them will inhale if puffing on a proferred spliff. Just like Bill Clinton didn't. He genuinely didn't inhale as - according to the late Christopher Hitchens, a contemporary of Clinton's at Cambridge insists - he ate his in the form of brownies. And as any fule kno the effects of weed, when eaten, are more pronounced and last far longer. Or so I understand.

trisontana

I have just found this quote from the IPC on a BBC news article:-

But the Independent Parking Committee said penalties are the only protection landowners have against losses.

Except any payment for "losses" don't go to the landowner , but to the PPC. More rubbish from the so-called parking "industry".

fisherjim

trisontana wrote: »

I have just found this quote from the IPC on a BBC news article:-

But the Independent Parking Committee said penalties are the only protection landowners have against losses.

Except any payment for "losses" don't go to the landowner , but to the PPC. More rubbish from the so-called parking "industry".

They actually said the "P" word too?

bod1467

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Looking at it from the other side if the PPCs fold and there is no longer any sanction at all for parking in areas that we are not entitled to park in then there will be a free-for-all and none of us will be able to park. People will park in the carpark of the block of flats where YOU live while you are trying to find a parking space in the carpark where they live so that you can get on a bus into town rather than pay the £97.50 per hour it costs to park in the town centre car park.

I don't know how we cope up here in Scotland (where POFA does not apply) with all this parking chaos.












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