Biggest culprits - inconsiderate drivers?

dacouch

mchale wrote: »

If you are driving correctly no one should be able to undertake you, so stop hogging the outside lane.

I had a car try to undertake me yesterday in slow traffic on a road which was a single carriage way with a full time cycle lane to my left.

I was correctly positioned in the road and driving a luton van.

dacouch

Car_54 wrote: »

Royal Mail red van drivers. They refuse to walk more than 3 feet to a pillar box or delivery address, and park accordingly on junctions, pavements, or the wrong side (or all three). And all without any indication.

You should see the black cab drivers in central London, they will stop anywhere to pick up a fare. This includes blocking both lanes by stopping diagonally or even in the middle of traffic lights or zebra crossings etc etc.

They literally stop anywhere and with no regard to other road users, they could pick the fare up by simply driving a further few yards down the road and not impede traffic but won't do this.

Strider590

WaywardDriver wrote: »

Ones who drive at 40mph on a clear 60mph limit road - then continue at 40 in a 30 limit!

This ^^

The average speed driver, covers about 75% of the driving population.

Norman_Castle

School run parents. I live opposite a school. At kicking out time its apparently fine to park anywhere if you are collecting a child (aged 11-17!). Across junctions and driveways. On residents driveways. On, and blocking the pavement. One recently tried to argue with a passing police traffic car about how it was ok for him to park on the yellow school zig zags, which are there to keep school children safe.
There are at least 100 cars turning up every afternoon causing tailbacks every day.
Parking safely at a distance and either walking to meet their child or arranging where you will be parked is clearly beyond these parents.
Children learn by example. These lazy parents are teaching their children to be lazy.

Edit. Forgot to mention repeatedly blasting the car horn when they see their child. That just adds to the problem.

RichardD1970

To be honest, I find no particular sector of drivers worse than any others.

The amount of bad driving I see on a day to day basis is quite scary, so much so that my 17 year old daughter has commented that she doesn't want to learn to drive because of the amount of idiots out there trying to kill her.

The main problems I see every time I'm out is people diving across red lights when I would have been perfectly safe to stop and poor lane discipline, especially around roundabouts.

This seems to have become a lot worse in the last few years, I don't know why but think vikingaero's post holds some truth.

There just seems to be a "I don't give a f**k about anybody else" attitude.

matttye

WaywardDriver wrote: »

Ones who drive at 40mph on a clear 60mph limit road - then continue at 40 in a 30 limit!

This annoys me to no end, so much so I've adjusted my driving because of it. :mad:

Now I'll give people the benefit of the doubt for about 10 seconds going into a 60, if you're not getting up to speed by then I'll be overtaking as soon as it's safe.

alastairq

Now I'll give people the benefit of the doubt for about 10 seconds going into a 60, if you're not getting up to speed by then I'll be overtaking as soon as it's safe.

Excellent attitude!

Especially the first bit!

IMHO, the Highway Code contains something of a 'bullies' charter'', with drivers/riders apparently being 'expected' to delay their journeys, in order that the 'bully' can shorten theirs?

Whereas, as mattye says, if there is a reason why the vehicle in front might increase their speed [change of speed limit, the exit from a junction, etc]...then the vehicle behind should allow a reasonable time period for the other driver to increase their own speed, before considering whether to overtake or not.

Rather than, as is often the case at present,, trying to stonk past , trying to compel the other driver to hold back longer, so as not to 'race'....?

Which, to me, is pig-ignorance, and should be treated as such!


With regards to the '40-in-an-apparently-clear 60 limit' issue?

[I emphasise the word apparently..because we may have missed something the driver in front has not?]

The speed limit is not a target....it is a legal 'cap.'

The 'safest' speed to drive at, may vary from driver to driver, vehicle to vehicle....as well as other issues like, perhaps 'future intentions?'

It is not for us to second guess as to why, the driver in front is driving at their chosen speed....when we would like to drive faster, and apparently see no reason for not doing so.

They are there..they are in front, so what?

If we don't like it..if we want to move faster, then seek an opportunity to overtake, reducing the risk when we do so.

If we cannot overtake, then such is life!

In the end...very shortly....that 60 mph single carriageway limit will be a thing of the past.....as LGVs will be 'allowed' to do what they have generally been doing for decades, and cruise along [sideswiping all and sundry] at 50-plus mph.....so the 'real' limit will be whatever the traffic queue behind these LGV's happens to be crawling along at.

[Unlike today, where, with their current 40 limit...a car driver does have the opportunity to overtake, with a 20 mph speed advantage, before he/she also breaks the law?]

Anyway, I will drive at whatever speed I wish to, within the Law.....simply because, you lot don't pay for my fuel!! [Even so, most of you still 'get in my way'...:) ]

If you lot wish to make a contribution, financially, then I will happily drive faster than everybody on here......

Hintza

From experience it is always a Micra at the front of a queue of traffic. Used to be Maestros but not many of them left now.

dacouch

Car_54 wrote: »

Royal Mail red van drivers. They refuse to walk more than 3 feet to a pillar box or delivery address, and park accordingly on junctions, pavements, or the wrong side (or all three). And all without any indication.

I'm using this to justify my lack of Valentines cards this year...

benham3160

I can see no problem at all with overtaking in the correct circumstances and where it is safe to do so.

I have a couple of reasonably powerful cars (not staggering but they'll knock on the door of a 6-second 0-60), my car is capable of overtaking and my driving standard seems to be sensible enough to deal with a safe overtaking manoeuvre when it's safe and acceptable.

I can't see anything wrong with that.

I also spend most of my time driving an underpowered panel van, if I'm holding somebody up I'm glad to flick the indicators left, move over to give the driver behind me a better view of the road and allow them to overtake me, that's life, courteous and I get fed up stuck behind slow moving vehicles when I could be making legal progress.

The same with motorcyclists, if a motorcyclist is hanging around my vehicle I'll do the same, move toward the left and let them go.

Life is too short to inconvenience people out of spite.