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  • HeinzHeinz Forumite
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    You can only have a CPS (Carrier PreSelect) calls provider if you rent your line from BT so, as that package involves handing over your line rental too, you cannot do so.

    Many, but not all, other line providers bar access to indirect access providers line 1899, 18185 and 18866.

    Beware, that £14.99/month Tiscali Option 1 package does not appear to provide any 'free' evening calls - only weekend calls of up to 60 minutes to UK 01, 02 & 03 numbers and to USA (includes mobiles), Canada (includes mobiles), Australia, New Zealand, France, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Germany & the Netherlands.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Tony10Tony10 Forumite
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    Many thanks for the reply, greatly appreciated. Sorry if I'm sounding thick here but if that's the case then why is it being recommended by Money Saving Expert (MSE) to go with Talk Talk for line rental, calls znd broadband and also use a cheap provider for calls? Isn't this the same as what I was querying ? Except my query was to use a cheap calls provider with the Tiscali package instead of the Talk Talk package?

    Here's what MSE says on this site:

    "Cheapest with broadband. TalkTalk* is £18/month including line rental, connection, broadband internet and unlimited evening and weekend calls to UK landlines plus some international destinations. Then use a specialist cheap provider to Call Mobiles at 6p/min. Full details: Cheapest with broadband solution"
  • HeinzHeinz Forumite
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    Because, apart from their 4 or 5 digit prefix access routes, the indirect access providers 1899, 18185 and 18866 also have freephone and 020 gateway numbers for use by those whose line rental provider bars the prefixes.

    However, the prices differ (e.g. 1899 charges 5p connection + 0p per minute for a call to any UK 01/02/03 number for those who are able to use the 1899 prefix but 5p connection + 1p per minute when their freephone or 020 gateway numbers are used.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Tony10Tony10 Forumite
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    Sorry, I don't understand your reply. It must be me! Being with Tiscali, can I dial the indirect access providers you refer to ? i.e. 1899, 18185 and 18866 ?
  • HeinzHeinz Forumite
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    Tony10 wrote: »
    Sorry, I don't understand your reply. It must be me! Being with Tiscali, can I dial the indirect access providers you refer to ? i.e. 1899, 18185 and 18866 ?
    If you have an account with one or more of them, the only way to find out whether Tiscali has barred access via the prefix numbers is to try it/them.

    If they have, you should still be able to use the 0808 or 020 gateway numbers. However, as with Talk Talk, Tiscali can bar those numbers too - but it's less likely.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • reereereeree Forumite
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    I agree, I wouldn't touch either Talk Talk or Tiscali with a barge pole.

    They are all long term contracts, they all offer mediocre service, and that is being polite.

    Read Broadband sites such as Thinkbroadband and ISP Review to see what customers think of them.

    i also agree, my daughter was with talktalk, when she checked her phone bill the address at the top was the same road as hers but where as she lives in derbyshire this was an address in london, when she checked her bank statement it turned out she had been paying her bill and someones elses, talk talk were having none of it and accused her of having two seperate accounts, theyve now told here if she dosent pay this latest one for over a £100 they will be sending the bailiffs
  • SpeedeeSpeedee Forumite
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    Heinz wrote: »
    You can only have a CPS (Carrier PreSelect) calls provider if you rent your line from BT so, as that package involves handing over your line rental too, you cannot do so.

    Many, but not all, other line providers bar access to indirect access providers line 1899, 18185 and 18866.

    I don't suppose there is a list of those CPS'ers that do and those that don't ban access to 4/5 digit prefixers or ‘override providers’ is there?

    A search didn't cover it!

    I know it's been stated, by law, BT can't bar these numbers, but I can't find a thread with the answer (but it seems the list is growing :( )

    Thanks.
  • HeinzHeinz Forumite
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    No, I don't think there is. It seems to depend in some cases on whether an exchange is LLU'd but, on WLR, it probably comes down to money - AIUI, providers have to pay to bar subscribers access to prefixes and/or numbers individually.

    Bear in mind there are well over 100 (122 when last I found a list on the Ofcom site) CPS providers!
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • stingyscotstingyscot Forumite
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    jhp wrote: »
    You can make the necessary number of calls via BT by using the BT overide access code 1280.
    It didn't work. Although I made 3 calls this way, this month's BT bill didn't charge for them. So presumably they were still routed through Orange (haven't had their bill yet). But thanks for trying to help.
  • TRACYA_4TRACYA_4 Forumite
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    Can anyone give me advise on the best option for calls to landlines please-
    I am happy with the package I have but need a good deal to call landlines(not interested in calling mobiles or international as can get international to oz for 0.5p min as per callchecker and use my mobile to call mobles).
    Deal I had a year ago is running out - Virgin media tv, line rental, broadband for reduced rate of £20month and this price will continue after the 12months but they also gave me 24hr calls to UK landlines free for 1yr. In future it will cost me £7.99mth to add this on (this is what i am looking to replace cheaper) or can get eve and w/e calls for £3.99mth

    Any ideas most welcome. My time is running out as Call Deal runs out shortly
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