Bought a clocked car from a dealer.

ratrace

OP - What's happened mate is that the dodgy dealer knew that the car has been clocked, that's the reason he never sold the car from his home address or a premises, Plus he didn't ask you about the remaining bank transfer money also the MOT can easily be copied, he's not very sharp the numpty hence the reason the copied mot certificate had the original certificate number on it rooky mistake


I understand that you are young 20/21years old going by your name (saj1994) so you probably don't have much experience with cars...


To be honest I don't think that you will see the £3000 I would contact dvla to inform them of what's happened just in case you don't receive the v5 back from them (don't think he will send it)


all you have from him is a contact number which can easily be disconnected


If you call him you have to make him aware that you are going to pursue this via trading standards and the police and I would report it to the cops just in case your mum is driving around in a stolen car

captainawsome

If the PAS is an easy fix £3k would be about the right price for that car, change the oil and run it to destruction. Will probably get years out of it, good engines in the pre-LCI (might want to blank off the swirl flaps in the inlet manifold if your keeping it). All depends on how much the PAS is going to cost.

londonTiger

jimjames wrote: »

Potentially a long time if it has been serviced correctly.

Have you checked the service history?

i say 190k is tops for any car in the uk, serviced well or not. we live in a small island with lots of stop start traffic even on the motorways on peak times. by 190k miles they've beat beat up quite bad.

eventually a 190k car will go into the realm of uneconomical repairs, gearbox, clutch, head gasket etc are all expensive jobs. Its only worth fixing if its a classic car, otherwise scrap it.

I suspect even at £3000 OP has overpaid, which is why seller was happy to walk away with 3K and a "promise" of 1.5k paid later. car probably is worth £1000 if it's a "good" 185k car.

so many mistakes made
1) do due diligence, check out the paperwork before agreeing to sale
2) check youre buying from legitimate owner, check their driving license as proof of ID and do the trade at their address, INSIDE the house. Not in a car park, alleyway or petrol pump.

If you cant do the basics, stick to buying cars from established traders, the premium is worth paying for you're cluless about cars

Rolandtheroadie

I wouldnt be surprised if the advisory was to cover the MOT place for not failing it on a power steering leak.

tykesi

londonTiger wrote: »

i say 190k is tops for any car in the uk, serviced well or not.

Once again LT shows his complete ignorance of anything vehicle related!

Herzlos

tykesi wrote: »

Once again LT shows his complete ignorance of anything vehicle related!

Agreed. Plenty of cars run long beyond 200k miles if the miles have been easy on it and it's been looked after. This one is in relatively good condition and the last 100k were put on over 3 years I'd it's a safe bet most of those miles are motorway (assuming 33k/year is doing more than about 150 miles/working day) .

OddballJamie

tykesi wrote: »

Once again LT shows his complete ignorance of anything vehicle related!

I'd love to know where he can get a good 120d for £1000.

Cheapest on Autotrader is £1700 with a smashed up wing. Ebay's cheapest was £1800 for a non runner and £2500 for a high mile Cat C.

colino

I'd love to know where you believe this fantasy car came from, never mind it has suddenly become, "good".
A genuine trader would not retail a car he hadn't checked the provenance on.
This is allegedly a 15 year old 120D knocking on 200,000 miles, with obvious faults.
Retail, never. Value, square root of FA.
If you can't find a lorry load of duff 120ds for under four figures, you really aren't trying hard enough.

Hoof_Hearted

You have made every mistake in the book but you don't need us to tell you that. You did well to stop the bank transfer.

You have two choices:

Work on the bloke to give you your £3,000 back and return the car. If you have enough information on him to sue, you would probably win at small claims and £3,000 is within their limit.

Or accept you have paid too much for a high mileage car and live with it. It may give many years of serviceable use.

BMWs are great cars but I wouldn't buy one as any faults are likely to be expensive to rectify, compared with a Ford, Honda, Toyota.

BeenThroughItAll

londonTiger wrote: »

i say 190k is tops for any car in the uk, serviced well or not. we live in a small island with lots of stop start traffic even on the motorways on peak times. by 190k miles they've beat beat up quite bad.

My last 250K+ miler begs to differ.


As do the numerous 190K+ cars for sale on eBay, Autotrader and Gumtree.


A mate of mine bought an Impreza I'd taken as a swap for my broken Forester off me for £350. It had 198K miles on. Three years later, he's still using it at over 270K.


I sometimes wonder if LT is the ultimate DarkMatter alter-ego.