Switching off someone else's ignition

Tobster86

Dan-Dan wrote: »

Id love to ditch the car and drive to work each day , but the chances of getting killed by some ignorant cretin is far too high , no matter how much care you take personally , i have two kids and a wife , so car it is , at least you stand a chance in that

Have a nice weekend , get a few bottles of real ale in

Before yesterday I'd have disagreed, and it's really sad. There is a common argument of "I don't cycle because it's not safe"; and the reason is not down to infrastructure; the roads are perfectly fine and offer enough for everyone to share. It's down to having to share space with a minority of road users who value a few seconds over a human life.

I'm not going to give up at this stage; but this event has changed my perception of the wider 'safety of cycling' argument. I consider my hazard perception to be very good; but what does one do about people that see you effectively as being a parasite?

Have a good one yourself. I think it'll be bottles of real wine for me tonight!

Throbbe

colino wrote: »

Thankfully we are not quite there yet, but it is creeping in with whole juries being bussed around to muddy fields at huge cost to add to their imagination when on major cases.
I blame the lycra and the jaunty caps.

It's been a few years since I did jury service, but I don't remember wearing lycra or a jaunty cap?

To go back to the OP, around 10-15 years ago I had a chap deliberately drive into my stationary car outside my parents house. By the time I got outside he had driven off, hitting another car on the way. It transpired that he had (a) just had a big row with his girlfriend, and (b) was very drunk.

Ten minutes later he returned, got out of the car and had a row with my father who had confronted him about the damage to my car, before eventually jumping back in the car and driving away up a footpath through the housing estate.

With the wonderful benefit of hindsight I should have removed his keys and chucked them down a drain to prevent him driving off again before the police arrived and endangering anyone else in the area, and indeed the police officer that took my statement agreed. No mention was made of this being illegal.

In the case under discussion I think it was a pretty silly thing to do, but in the imediate aftermath of a near miss with the adrenaline flowing I can see how it would happen. I think it highly unlikely a prosecution would follow, if any offence had been committed.

gilbert_and_sullivan

Tobster86 wrote: »

Nope, just a self-preservative intention to deal with each situation on it's own merits; and a recognition of how easy & irrelevant it is to portray oneself as the 'hard man' on the Internet.

But yes it's great that it's Friday. In a few hours time I'll be drinking away the memory of nearly being killed.

So in the tradition of self preservation, you think that reaching into someones car, invading their personal space and removing their ignition keys is the way to live long and prosper eh?

Good luck with that one, sooner or later the wrong person will be picked on.

By the way for what its worth i've driven artics for nearly 40 years and still, despite their sometimes idiotic aggressive antics, go out of my way to ensure cyclists or any other road user comes to no harm from my hand, even down to managing not to drown pedestrains on the pavement near puddles where car van bus and even cycle drivers manage to splash them regularly.
It's called professional pride, a bit old hat now but some of us still try our best.

Its your attitude i find odd, i'd certainly keep my will up to date if i started removing other drivers keys every time i saw some road antics i didn't like.

Johnny_Dangerously

I've just seen this post, and skipped the last few pages. Apologies if I've missed anything, but I think you are all completely missing the point. That point is...

this thread is useless without the video!

That way we can all come to a conclusion of:

1 - were you nearly killed
2 - were you being a muppet
3 - if you had a knife, would you have been in a public place
4 - who would win in a fight between batman and spiderman

...and possibly a few other mysteries.

But seriously, this kind of thread is golden. Haven't laughed as much in ages. :T

Tobster86

I'm glad it's entertained, although I'd rather it would have just provided a black and white answer to the title's question!

pinkteapot

The mode of transport is utterly irrelevant here. The question boils down to:

Another road user annoyed me by driving like a tw at and nearly hitting me. Did I do anything wrong by then going up to their car, opening the door, turning the engine off and ranting at them?

I would be seriously scared if someone did that to me! There is simply no excuse for road rage, no matter what the driver did. Personally I'd hope both parties got a ticking off from the police (though doing nothing is more likely, unless the Youtube video attracts media attention and then they'll suddenly put some resources into it).

And I say that as a fellow cyclist who was almost taken out a few weeks ago by a car driver that ran a red light (can't have seen it - made absolutely no attempt to slow down for it)

Stoke

Surely both are to blame in this situation?

brat

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

I bet he didn't record it though.

Wrong on several levels.

Why do you use ignorance and false assumption as your basis for criticism?

You're starting to sound too much like your condimental ppr'd alter ego. :cool:

Spicy_McHaggis

brat wrote: »

Wrong on several levels.

Why do you use ignorance and false assumption as your basis for criticism?

You're starting to sound too much like your condimental ppr'd alter ego. :cool:

So which detection code is a chat on the door step?

brat

Why does it need to have one? If I stop and warn someone about their speed, or their proximity to the car in front, or lights out at night, etc etc, that is recorded in my pocket book, nowhere else.

That was not the case in this particular incident. To be honest, I'm getting tired of you trying to reduce people's integrity to the standards that your obviously comfortable with. PM me if you want more on this, but I'm bored of your anti antics. I already told you this when you were Sgt Pepper.