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Electric car & charging

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  • AdrianC
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    smitchy73 wrote: »
    On your second point, if you charge at home and you are on a green tariff, then it truly can be zero emission!
    No, it can't. "Green tariffs" don't work like that.
  • RichardD1970
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    smitchy73 wrote: »
    On your second point, if you charge at home and you are on a green tariff, then it truly can be zero emission!

    How does that work then? Do you get your own special green electricity delivered through your wires?

    Sorry but I think you have fallen for the propaganda.

    Taken from the Energy Saving Trust.
    There are no companies offering green tariffs that are 100 per cent additional renewable supply.
    Opting for a green tariff will not mean that the electricity you buy is all renewable. You cannot consider that your electricity supply is zero carbon or carbon neutral.
  • forgotmyname
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    Thats going to upset some electric car owners. Their so called enviromentally green car is killing the envrioment just as much as a non electric car.

    Its nto all bad news though. At least your moving the pollution to someone elses back yard. But thats their own fault for living near a power station.

    But if power stations are struggling with the capacity over the recent years how will they cope with charging all these cars?
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • smitchy73
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    How does that work then? Do you get your own special green electricity delivered through your wires?

    Sorry but I think you have fallen for the propaganda.

    Taken from the Energy Saving Trust.

    Yes you're right there is and always will be the propaganda, hence why I didn't change my tariff to it. To me it is a guilt free experience, if you have one of those tariffs. It doesn't mean that the leccy coming through the cables is any different.

    Some EV owners are charging from their own solar panels, so in some ways if it enough to charge their car then it is emission free from the source, not in the creation of the panels!
    Thanks to all the competition posters.
  • AdrianC
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    smitchy73 wrote: »
    Some EV owners are charging from their own solar panels, so in some ways if it enough to charge their car then it is emission free from the source, not in the creation of the panels!
    Plus, of course, that's electricity that could have been fed back to the grid, allowing a lump or three less coal to be lobbed in to a power station somewhere.
  • smitchy73
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    Thats going to upset some electric car owners. Their so called enviromentally green car is killing the envrioment just as much as a non electric car.

    Its nto all bad news though. At least your moving the pollution to someone elses back yard. But thats their own fault for living near a power station.

    But if power stations are struggling with the capacity over the recent years how will they cope with charging all these cars?

    Most of us are hard skinned these days. If you believe some people EV's are the scourge of the earth in regards to using rare materials for the batteries, and when you take in to account the making of the car and their batteries there is nothing 'low emission' about them.

    In one of my earlier posts on here I had a bit of a rant about oil. Yes a car filling with petrol or diesel from pump to emissions is say 99gC02, but if you take it from the oil well to emissions it would be a helluva lot more, but in using pump to emission for a normal car is okay, but from the plug in your house to the car isn't acceptable?
    Thanks to all the competition posters.
  • I think the best etiquette is to charge your car up then move it from the charging point and not leave it there blocking it all day. It's like when people fill up at the petrol pump then go and do a 20 minute shop in the petrol station shop.
  • AdrianC
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    edited 23 January 2015 at 8:05PM
    smitchy73 wrote: »
    In one of my earlier posts on here I had a bit of a rant about oil. Yes a car filling with petrol or diesel from pump to emissions is say 99gC02, but if you take it from the oil well to emissions it would be a helluva lot more, but in using pump to emission for a normal car is okay, but from the plug in your house to the car isn't acceptable?
    Given the %age of UK electricity generation that comes from fossil fuel, a fair comparison would be ground-to-plug, would it not?

    http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
    35% coal, 29% gas, 17% nuclear at the moment. 11% wind is high, and that's reducing the fossil use.

    Don't forget that coal is almost entirely imported - 60m ton consumed in 2013, 50m in power stations. 49m imported (by oil-powered ship)...
  • sillygoose
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    Still not caring a lot, the car is great by the way, managed to get it down to 26 mpg this afternoon by caning it. I can up my carbon footprint even more by warming it up by remote control with no one even in it.

    Burn baby burn!!!
  • sillygoose wrote: »
    Still not caring a lot, the car is great by the way, managed to get it down to 26 mpg this afternoon by caning it. I can up my carbon footprint even more by warming it up by remote control with no one even in it.

    Burn baby burn!!!

    89 bhp in something weighing almost two tonnes, I bet you nearly got it up to 65.
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