Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

LABMAN

Leanne1812 wrote: »

To stay in both the UK & the EU. Didn't think that needed explaining but there you go.

Maybe take time to read the posts previously & understand.

It's no problem. Anytime

Where was that option on the ballot paper? Oh it wasn't! Remind us all what exactly was the question on the ballot paper. Was the EU mentioned at all?

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

I think it's easy enough to understand what I meant....

I didn't think the SNP would win the election! but they certainly did in Scotland. Agreed, they did benefit from the FPTP system which they oppose. Ah diddums:) suppose it was all their fault too....

Yeah, you seem to think that winning pretty much all of the Scottish seats in a UK-wide election means something extra special coz SNP.

Winning Scotland in a UK election means........nothing!

I suppose we could ask the Scottish people whether or not they would like their votes to carry 100% weight in a General Election, if they would like only Scottish votes to count in elections and not English, Welsh or Isle of Wight ones. Oh hang on, we did. Diddums....guess you're still not over that:rotfl:

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Generali certainly wasn't.

We have a thing called 'the internet' here in Australia. It's great as it allows us to access media from across the world. Increasingly we can even access something called 'social media' which is kinda like a real-time newspaper written by people themselves.

Mostly this 'social media' has pictures of cats but sometimes it has some interesting debates and things. I can really very strongly recommend it.

Anyway, the position that the No! campaign took regarding the Scottish membership of the EU was perfectly simple: if you leave the United Kingdom, Scotland will not be the successor state and thus Scotland would have to reapply to join the EU upon leaving.

Those sneaky Tories and UKIP people, that the majority of British people voted for in the British General Election promised the British people that they could vote for Britain remaining in or leaving the EU if either formed a Government. From listening to the SNP goons it seems that this was kept as a secret from the Scottish people despite it being all over the internet here in Australia and indeed in England when I visited during the referendum campaign.

I urge you to invest a few tens of pounds each month in an internet. You won't regret it and it will help you post on here while having a clue what you're talking about at the same time and I think we'd all benefit from that.

Leanne1812

Generali wrote: »

Yeah, you seem to think that winning pretty much all of the Scottish seats in a UK-wide election means something extra special coz SNP.

Winning Scotland in a UK election means........nothing!

I suppose we could ask the Scottish people whether or not they would like their votes to carry 100% weight in a General Election, if they would like only Scottish votes to count in elections and not English, Welsh or Isle of Wight ones. Oh hang on, we did. Diddums....guess you're still not over that:rotfl:

Geez, with the spin you've put on that you could almost be a politician!

A Scottish MP holds as much weight as any other, or at least should do when they're not being excluded..

Get over the SNP being popular here. As much as it pains you it means nothing to me & many others. Scots like them & will vote them as a majority gov come may.

It amuses me no end the disdain and outrage people have for a middle of the road political party. It's just that one aim they have that makes people deteste them.

Trust me, I'm over it. Just keep an eye on proceedings in case, you know, it ever comes to the fore again..:)

Leanne1812

LABMAN wrote: »

Where was that option on the ballot paper? Oh it wasn't! Remind us all what exactly was the question on the ballot paper. Was the EU mentioned at all?

Not on the ballot paper no.

Continuously told we would thrown out/ excluded in the event of a Yes vote.

Are you disputing that?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

If Scotland had voted to leave the UK it was a definite vote for leaving the EU. As we would have been out and had to reapply for membership. And with current finances there's zero prospect we'd have got back in any time soon.

If Scotland voted to stay in the UK then there was a possibility of a future referendum on EU membership should the Tories get elected.

Neither of those facts were hidden in the indyref campaign.

People knew the risks of both options re the EU and voted accordingly.

Leanne1812

I'll reiterate what I said initially.

There was no definite EU ref pre Scottish referendum or pre GE.

It was entirely dependant on who the next government would be.

No-one knew who that would be.

There's no spin or untruth here.

It's as simple as that.

wotsthat

Leanne1812 wrote: »

I'll reiterate what I said initially.

There was no definite EU ref pre Scottish referendum or pre GE.

It was entirely dependant on who the next government would be.

No-one knew who that would be.

There's no spin or untruth here.

It's as simple as that.

It doesn't matter. You were asked whether you wanted to be in or out of the UK. You (royal) chose in.

You're well clever and understood the real implications but no one else did - tough. If you failed to persuade those less intelligent than the three degrees (you, STD and Eletan) - hard cheddar.

LABMAN

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Not on the ballot paper no.

Continuously told we would thrown out/ excluded in the event of a Yes vote.

Are you disputing that?

I do dispute it..no doubt you can supply links. I voted on the question in front of me.


As we didn't vote YES it's all academic anyway, we may very well have been thrown out/ excluded if there had been a YES vote....there wasn't... move on if you dare!

LABMAN

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Not on the ballot paper no.

Continuously told we would thrown out/ excluded in the event of a Yes vote.

Are you disputing that?

So what way did you vote and why?