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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Political. The Conservatives haven't been seen in Scotland for decades now as representative enough of people's views to garner any meaningful voting share. Since 2007, Labour has gone slowly but surely the same way. First in devolved matters, and more recently in reserved matters in Westminster.

    A lot of Scots simply feel that a Westminster run by a party 50%+ of the time, by a party that was rejected decades ago is getting a little tedious, and that sadly Labour wasn't much better despite decades of votes in their direction. Not when there's a perfectly good parliament here already up and running, and for the first time willing ( Labour was never that ).. to take over the reins fully in Scotland.

    ( I underplayed that using the word tedious ).

    what percentage of scots support the ruling party(s) in the EU parliament?
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    Despite the SNP skill in developing nationalism in Scotland they've utterly failed to stir up any English nationalism which must be disappointing for them.

    As a result there's no Scotland card to play. The only conversation I've ever had about Scottish independence was with my wife watching the news on the night of the vote. I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention it before or since.

    Yes, it's a factor that might bear consideration when deciding which way to vote in June but it's on the insignificant side of things.

    There is a Scotland card and it will be played. It has been already several times. I hope they don't overdo it.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Wonder who blinked first. But it seems there might be an agreement on the cards finally. Mabye. It's been going back and forth all day with statements and breaking news ( in Scotland anyway ) and people not showing up for Fiscal Framework talks.
    .@NicolaSturgeon: "The Vow we are talking about is not my Vow, it's the Prime Minister's and he should get on with delivering it."
    @NicolaSturgeon will make a statement about fiscal framework deal in Holyrood at 1730.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    what percentage of scots support the ruling party(s) in the EU parliament?

    I think it's more the fact that EU is the only thing protecting Scotland and other regions against the Tories and UKIPers from running riot with demolishing Human rights, welfare and working laws etc etc. Sturgeon and the SNP might be pro-EU as well as Cameron. But apart from the very obvious economic debates.. it's for different reasons.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    I think it's more the fact that EU is the only thing protecting Scotland and other regions against the Tories and UKIPers from running riot with demolishing Human rights, welfare and working laws etc etc. Sturgeon and the SNP might be pro-EU as well as Cameron. But apart from the very obvious economic debates.. it's for different reasons.

    my question was how many scots support the ruling EU groups?

    now I would observe, that once scotland benefits from the full gannet of eu employment protection, then your unemployment rates will rise to EU levels.
    although I wouldn't normal mind about that as such, but that will inevitable mean about 100,000 young scots moving south to london. (who will of course be made welcome.)
  • elantan
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    Wee Eck doing whit he does best:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Sending them homeward tae think again :rotfl::rotfl:::rotfl:


    Swinney did gooooooood :)
  • elantan wrote: »
    Wee Eck doing whit he does best:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Sending them homeward tae think again :rotfl::rotfl:::rotfl:


    Swinney did gooooooood :)


    He did. More powers, no detriment and a review after 6 years. Now to see what ALL the Scottish parties intend doing with them and putting to the Scottish voters in their forthcoming manifesto's.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    Ruth must be thinking .... Oh hell I wish I had kept ma mouth shut though :)
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
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    I think it's more the fact that EU is the only thing protecting Scotland and other regions against the Tories and UKIPers from running riot with demolishing Human rights, welfare and working laws etc etc. Sturgeon and the SNP might be pro-EU as well as Cameron. But apart from the very obvious economic debates.. it's for different reasons.

    You are really blinkered when it comes to the Tories, amongst other things. Why are you so prejudiced?
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