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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    edited 8 December 2015 at 9:29PM
    Shakey - there's an article about you today on Bella Caledonia...;)

    http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2015/12/07/scotland-the-utopia-that-never-was/

    They really did describe you to perfection you know...:eek:

    Anyway, think what you like about us 'minority voters', we're happily watching the Yes movement tear itself apart in articles and comments sections like that one. :)

    Yes, the left is famous for that. Bella's not my thing ( too airy fairy). I've never heard of the author. The SNP will most likely win a landslide in May. The other party leaders, ALL of them, may be reduced to ( rather humiliatingly ) scrabbling for list seats because none of them look set to win a constituency seat between them. :eek:

    I'm not sure what you take from the above ? But most of the Yes movement that was, are intelligent enough to realise that the SNP need a majority in May. Then it's a simple waiting game to see what happens, if anything, after that. Splits and division can wait a while yet. No-one is really interested.

    The Yes movement is on a long pause. In May it's SNP v's Labour v's Conservative v's Lib Dems (v's Greens v's SSP v's RISE v's Solidarity). The SNP will likely take near enough half the votes in Scotland. Labour, and Conservatives, reduced to fringe parties like they are in Westminster representing Scottish constituents. In other words, 'minority parties'. Which makes me, far more representative than you of an average 'Scottish voter' in debating terms.

    You don't know me at all Hamish. But am sure if we met in real life we'd get on just fine despite the political differences. You'd never know I was an SNP member. Honest. :) * settles down wrapped in Saltire to watch that Braveheart documentary * <
    oh god and that was a joke just in case it goes over heads too.

    Ps I imagine you like a Grinchy Scrooge type figure if it's any consolation. Am sure I'm way off though ?
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    so was I : we are just so alike
    look forward to my invite to the celebrations in due course

    Gold embossed of course. But you'll have to subsidise the postage. I only get pocket money. :o
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    12 ) They've run the Scottish Govt and been in power there since 2007. The longer they've been in power, the more their vote share has gone up. Scots like the SNP and what they do in power too.. ( a lot better than they like Labour and any theoretical Conservative party leading Holyrood it seems ).

    I didn't think I'd need to actually point this one above out. Strange as it may seem to you, and putting the referendum aside. It's people like Leanne and myself who are far more representative of your average Scottish voter and their perspective's these days.... than Hamish or skint ( who are definitely in the minority much as it pains them to admit ;) ).

    Yes I was forgetting just what a genetic gift the SNP have for administrative matters.

    Health outcomes in Scotland put NHS England to shame.
  • Ps I imagine you like a Grinchy Scrooge type figure if it's any consolation.

    No that's exactly what I'm like... :D
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    Yes I was forgetting just what a genetic gift the SNP have for administrative matters.

    Health outcomes in Scotland put NHS England to shame.

    And lets not forget about transport outcomes....:eek:

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    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Leanne1812
    Leanne1812 Posts: 1,688 Forumite
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    Aaahhh, I'm so glad we are back on track! I was having serious withdrawals from SNP bashing and my zombie acolyte brain didn't know what was going on :)

    I think shakes has summed it up pretty well. Impossible as it is to contemplate ( I am now visualising you all shaking your heads in bewilderment) quite a lot of scots like & trust the SNP. How can this be? How can so many of us have been hoodwinked? Is half the Scottish electorate stupid?

    If the SNP were really so incompetent surely the polls wouldn't be showing we will likely return them to govern us next year.

    I read the bella article this morning and while it may be true of some Indy supporters it isn't of me. Like shakes outside of this forum & a few close family/friends you would never know where my politics lie.
  • Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Aaahhh, I'm so glad we are back on track! I was having serious withdrawals from SNP bashing and my zombie acolyte brain didn't know what was going on :).

    Glad to be of assistance. :)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Gold embossed of course. But you'll have to subsidise the postage. I only get pocket money. :o

    on independence day, you will have lots of money: anyway I'm a modest person and simple hospitality will be fine ;

    however, in subsequent years I will bring a food parcel with me
  • Leanne1812
    Leanne1812 Posts: 1,688 Forumite
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    Glad to be of assistance. :)

    Thanks Hamish, we can rely on you to save the day, or maybe even the country :rotfl:

    Now, can you pronounce the second and third name of the road sign you posted? Not the Gaelic version, to make it easier.
  • chris_m
    chris_m Posts: 8,250 Forumite
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Now, can you pronounce the second and third name of the road sign you posted? Not the Gaelic version, to make it easier.

    I'd rather go past it, but preferably in the opposite direction - coz I knows where that leads, especially if I turn off at Invergarry :rotfl:
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