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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies
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Leanne1812 wrote: »Shakes, Hamish, I read both articles and the common theme seems to be no defeat without ground troops which at the moment no gov is willing to commit. It's a quandary as while I understand the reticence it's clear air strikes are not going to be effective in total annihilation.
A long, drawn out bloody battle is what I see ahead. Even then I'm not convinced it will lead to more stability in the region.
And if we don't fight back what do you foretell? I don't see great outcomes either way.
Better to fight on your feet than live on your knees.
I guess that this all fits with the ideology of going away and pretending that Scotland isn't part of the wider world.
This has been an interesting instruction as to the extent to which the SNP are absolutely gaga.0 -
Better to fight on your feet than live on your knees.
I guess that this all fits with the ideology of going away and pretending that Scotland isn't part of the wider world.
This has been an interesting instruction as to the extent to which the SNP are absolutely gaga.
Exactly....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Leanne1812 wrote: »Shakes, Hamish, I read both articles and the common theme seems to be no defeat without ground troops which at the moment no gov is willing to commit. It's a quandary as while I understand the reticence it's clear air strikes are not going to be effective in total annihilation.
A long, drawn out bloody battle is what I see ahead. Even then I'm not convinced it will lead to more stability in the region.
There are no easy solutions but some things are clear.
1. Daesh cannot be allowed to continue murdering thousands of people a day while building strength and resources with impunity.
2. Given their terrorist attacks on the west, a military response by western nations is justified
3. Air strikes alone may not fully defeat them but they are certainly degrading their sources of funding and operational capabilities
4. We have been asked to help, by the Kurds, by our allies the French, by the Iraqis, and by the UN
The entire position of the SNP seems to be completely confused, they spend a lot of time playing politics and blaming the Tories for acting, whilst coming up with absolutely no credible alternatives.
Talking to Daesh won't stop them, hiding behind other nations to defend our security is entirely inappropriate, and I've yet to hear the SNP come up with any other credible options?
So what other solutions would you propose?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
If Sturgeon had decided to make her point of difference was going to be calling for ground troops to be sent to Syria the acolytes here would be arguing most eloquently what a great idea it was.0
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »The entire position of the SNP seems to be completely confused, they spend a lot of time playing politics and blaming the Tories for acting, whilst coming up with absolutely no credible alternatives.
Indeed. Very reminiscent of their economic policy.
In other news. Oil price falls to 6 year low.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35034103If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Indeed. Very reminiscent of their economic policy.
In other news. Oil price falls to 6 year low.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35034103
An oil economist we employ to consult at work reckons $35/bbl is on the cards. That's about a third of the price that would make Scotland solvent as a separate entity.0 -
Indeed. Very reminiscent of their economic policy.
In other news. Oil price falls to 6 year low.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35034103
At $113 a barrel (the SNP forecast in the white paper) the Scottish deficit might have been kept to the same in % terms as the UK deficit, but only if they'd found a way (unlikely) to significantly increase production volumes.
At $100 a barrel and actual production rates there was a £5bn black hole on top of the same deficit the UK had to run in % terms
At $40 there is virtually no revenue from oil at all, in fact it's probably negative to the Treasury as it's been for the last 6 months.
So the full Scottish deficit of £16bn per annum has to be paid from onshore taxation.
That's almost 14% of GDP per year... On top of the Scottish share of the national debt.
Completely unsustainable - We'd be cap in hand to the IMF within 24 months as a bankrupt state.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »At $113 a barrel (the SNP forecast in the white paper) the Scottish deficit might have been kept to the same in % terms as the UK deficit, but only if they'd found a way (unlikely) to significantly increase production volumes.
At $100 a barrel and actual production rates there was a £5bn black hole on top of the same deficit the UK had to run in % terms
At $45 there is virtually no revenue from oil at all, in fact it might even be negative to the Treasury as it's been for the last 6 months.
So the full Scottish deficit of £16bn per annum has to be paid from onshore taxation.
That's almost 14% of GDP per year... On top of the Scottish share of the national debt.
Completely unsustainable - We'd be cap in hand to the IMF within 24 months as a bankrupt state.
So there is an obvious question here:
1. Scots were recently offered a chance to vote on independence and voted No! pretty overwhelmingly.
2. Since then the economic situation has deteriorated markedly.
3. Since then support for the SNP has grown markedly.
The question is....why?0 -
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Why ?
Because we are constantly fed SNP propaganda stating that everything will be great when/if we go independant.
Complete shouting down of any sensible economic argument by the SNP and their supporters (no attempt to make a case as they have no case).
Tory government in the UK - Always seen as bad for Scotland by the majority here.
A majority of voters in Scotland rely on benefits in some shape or form and are constantly told that this government is going to cut them (no mention of the massive cuts needed if we were to go independant though)
Point blank refusal of anyone in the SNP group to admit to anything that makes them look bad. Everything is the fault of Westminster.0
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