Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Mistermeaner

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Now away and clack some sticks together and jingle some knee bells in a camp fashion to an accordian.

Don't knock it until you've tried it

Shakethedisease

elantan wrote: »

Shake you going this weekend?

I quite fancied the CW meeting with Lesley Riddoch that's on after the conference finishes but near the venue ... Tickets are free if your interested

Wish I could. Husbands work commitments and a friends anniversary 'do' this weekend. Report back though. I love Lesley.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

For those who want a little information on this, refer to

Scottish independence: Why hasn't Holyrood used its tax varying powers?

That report was year, meanwhile;
SNP to consider raising Scots income tax next year

Read more: SNP to consider raising Scots income tax next year

So maybe, just maybe, the SNP will do something with their responsibility; I can hardly wait.

We must, however, wait to see what the new Devolution settlement will bring.

As I said..

BBC Scotland's business and economy editor Douglas Fraser explained that setting up the administration around any rise in the tax rate would likely eat up much of the financial advantage gained.

Am sure the SNP will 'consider' raising taxes. But I doubt they'll do anything that will hit the lower end of the wages scale disproportionately ( as an across the bands tax raise would do ) at the same time as tax credit cuts are being implemented. Unless the Tory's do a U-turn on those. There's a lot of disquiet among the Tories on that one.

Shakethedisease

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Don't knock it until you've tried it

I used to do a mean Highland Fling and Sword Dance in my youth.... I'm open to trying a bit of stick clacking and jiggling bells. :j

elantan

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Wish I could. Husbands work commitments and a friends anniversary 'do' this weekend. Report back though. I love Lesley.

I Love her too ... sadly we won't be going either ... wedding Saturday and work Sunday

Would've loved to have went as well

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The 2012 tax raising 'power's are across the board. You raise one tax band you raise them all. Raising taxes for everyone in every tax band, on top of the tax credits cuts to come next April, affecting the lowest paid and the least able to absorb them,...because of Tory cuts ? Dream on.

I'm not dreaming you are. You appear to leave in a financial utopia. Where somebody else pays. Where it's always somebody is to blame. Rather than accept that a standard of living has to be paid for by everyone that's in work.

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I'm not dreaming you are. You appear to leave in a financial utopia. Where somebody else pays. Where it's always somebody is to blame. Rather than accept that a standard of living has to be paid for by everyone that's in work.

You're talking about the SNP and how they 'must' raise taxes across the board next April, in order to pay and mitigate Tory cuts to tax credits for those in work. So in mitigating losses from tax credits... those in work who've already lost out in Scotland through UK policy implementation, have Scottish taxes raised at the same time and take the hit twice ?

Nice plan. I don't think the SNP will be going with it any time soon. Nor should they. For now Welfare is a fully reserved matter. If the Tories go ahead with their plans, they can take the full consequences of them. I doubt the SNP have any intention of taking the flack for a Tory policy. Though no doubt the media, Labour and just about everyone else will try their best to make it so.

Again, it's not the Scottish Government's job to mitigate and try and reverse UK reserved matters. They deal ONLY in matters already devolved and set priorities. They had to beg Westminster even for permission to put money aside to pay the bedroom tax on behalf of those affected..

There's an increasing amount of confusion between devolved matters and reserved at the moment. People like you talking as if the two governments have exactly the same powers to control, reverse, implement and limit policy. Why cant the SNP 'just' do this, or 'just' raise that ? They can't in most cases, it's not devolved... it's kind of why they'd like independence.

Happygreen

elantan wrote: »

I Love her too ... sadly we won't be going either ... wedding Saturday and work Sunday

Would've loved to have went as well

Where is the event? DD1 might be able to go.
Lesley tends to comment on her podcast after the events each week, she does amazing work.

elantan

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/from-linwood-to-lewis-why-land-in-scotland-matters-tickets-18648298563


She really is an amazing lady .. hope your daughter manages to make it

.string.

On the Daily Politics Show there was an SNP MSP who was complaining about the Scottish Grant being reduced by same amount as the Scottish Goverment would get in taxes. (Sorry but I did not catch his name).

Is that true? Does it apply to all taxes raised over and above the UK norm?

What is the problem with it?

If Taxes are deduced from the UK norm, does the Grant goes up?

It sounds like devil, if such exists, is in the detail.