Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

It's the SNP....

Their supporters will allow just about any crime, act of incompetence, sleazy behaviour, etc, in the name of Independence.

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

The older you are the wiser you become.

All the over 50's in Scotland are or were Labour voters...So it kind of depends where you're coming from with that statement.

Shakethedisease

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It's the SNP....

Their supporters will allow just about any crime, act of incompetence, sleazy behaviour, etc, in the name of Independence.

Michelle Thompson.. wasn't she the MSP a few weeks ago you were cackling with laughter and rubbing your hands with glee over. And we wasted loads of pixels with you coming over all 'holier than thou' and claiming 100%, no doubts at all that she was having a saucy affaire ?.. when an Ashley Madison email address that even Guido Fawkes rubbished as her being pranked showed up ?

I'd possibly reserve judgement, as yours has been proven to be a bit 'trigger happy' SNP wise. But in any case, the article is behind a paywall. So most of us can't read it. Even so, you're clutching at straws. It's hardly likely to bring the entire SNP government down now is it ?

browniej

Shakethedisease wrote: »

All the over 50's in Scotland are or were Labour voters...

What a sweeping statement!

I'm not and neither are my parents. In fact most of my over 50 friends are not and never were Labour supporters.

So it kind of depends where you're coming from with that statement.

Yes it does but then most of us are speaking with reality in mind without wearing rose-tinted SNP spectacles.

Shakethedisease

....Oh and Corbyn needs to stop listening to the likes of Neil Findlay and others for forming Labour policy in Scotland. He made a total arris of himself on Cal Mac and Scotrail on Marr and Sunday politics this morning by showing how very little he knows.

Time for a rethink Mr Corbyn. Trying to sell the same old misinformed SNP BAD stories as before isn't going to cut it with winning those Scottish voters back.

Martin MacDonald ‏@Innealadair 4 hrs4 hours ago @Neil_FindlayMSP @jegteg The Scottish Gov is allowed to run the franchising bid. The rest, Network Rail and the rolling stock, is reserved.

Whoops ..

Neil Findlay ‏@Neil_FindlayMSP 4 hrs4 hours ago
@jegteg scotrail is reserved?

Shakethedisease

browniej wrote: »

What a sweeping statement!

I'm not and neither are my parents. In fact most of my over 50 friends are not and never were Labour supporters.
Yes it does but then most of us are speaking with reality in mind without wearing rose-tinted SNP spectacles.

MOST of them if it makes you happy. A quick glance at Scottish electoral history ( until 2007 ) over the last few decades will suffice to prove the 'reality'... and it wasn't Tory, Lib Dem, SNP or Green.

ruggedtoast

Shakethedisease wrote: »

....Oh and Corbyn needs to stop listening to the likes of Neil Findlay and others for forming Labour policy in Scotland. He made a total arris of himself on Cal Mac and Scotrail on Marr and Sunday politics this morning by showing how very little he knows.

Time for a rethink Mr Corbyn. Trying to sell the same old misinformed SNP BAD stories as before isn't going to cut it with winning those Scottish voters back.


Whoops ..

One like too. I doubt that will worry Jeremy whom currently is getting tens of likes on his Facebook page.

It's a bit rich for the SNP to complain about misinformation. They wiggle and weave so much it's hard to know what they ended up doing compared to what they said they were going to.

Scottish independence is basically treachery against the British proletariat. Corbyn is going to sort it out.

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Don't worry Shakey , Corbyn is only going to appeal to those lefty types daft enough to believe starry-eyed economic policies justified by half truths and a visceral hatred of the Tories.

Oh -- wait a minute, that's a large part of the SNP's core support.

Go, Corbyn, go!

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Shakethedisease wrote: »

the article is behind a paywall. So most of us can't read it. Even so, you're clutching at straws.

Well here's the summary....

Michelle Thomson is an SNP MP and is Nicola's business spokesperson.

She owns a property business which bought 13 houses in 2010/2011 in what now appear to be somewhat dodgy circumstances.

The circumstances are sufficiently dodgy that her solicitor was struck off for handling these 13 transactions.

The law society appeared to be unhappy the transactions involved things like, cash back, inflated valuations, immediate resale within hours without notifying the mortgage lenders, etc.

The words "mortgage fraud" were specifically used in the report.

Oh... And as it turns out, at least one of the transactions involved buying a house off a seriously ill distressed seller who had cancer, and then reselling it within hours, in what was clearly a prearranged scheme which looks like it was deliberately concocted to change tax liabilities or mortgage valuations.

Social justice in action, eh?

Anyway.... The solicitor was struck off almost a year ago, but the transcripts at the time were redacted, only now have the unredacted transcripts identified the party behind the dodgy deals.... Which is of course the SNP MP Michelle Thomson.

You'd have thought the SNP might have managed to pick this up in the vetting process.

Unless of course the vetting process was more concerned about independence credentials and party loyalty than, you know, picking up that someone might have committed fraud on rather a large scale while taking advantage of people with cancer.

What appears to be beyond doubt is that our favourite SNP business spokesperson engaged in a series of property transactions so dodgy her solicitor was struck off for them.

And if that is in fact the case, she was either complicit or incredibly incompetent, much like the SNP vetting process....

It's hardly likely to bring the entire SNP government down now is it ?

I imagine the Tories of the early 90's said much the same thing when the first 'Tory Sleaze' reports started emerging.

What's that expression you're so fond of using?

Tick... Tock... Tick... Tock.....

Shakethedisease

ruggedtoast wrote: »

One like too. I doubt that will worry Jeremy whom currently is getting tens of likes on his Facebook page.

It's a bit rich for the SNP to complain about misinformation. They wiggle and weave so much it's hard to know what they ended up doing compared to what they said they were going to.

Scottish independence is basically treachery against the British proletariat. Corbyn is going to sort it out.

It wasn't misinformation. Corbyn got his facts totally wrong. Someone has been feeding him far too much Snpbad in his Scotland briefings. It made him look a bit of a klutz spouting out info that anyone who follows Scottish politics knows isn't correct. Was certainly news to everyone this morning that the SNP have somehow managed to privatise Scotrail.. since it was the Conservatives in 1993, long before there was even a devolved Scottish parliament.

I am sorry. But I don't think so re Corbyn sorting things out ( and that's a Facebook screenshot that's been retweeted 1000's of times on Twitter today )..But it seems Corbyn and Labour have just cancelled/been stopped/chickened out of having a debate on Trident after the unions 'intervened'. That's got to be a big disappointment for thousands of Corbyn voters. And himself no doubt.

I think normal 'Labour party' service has resumed. Corbyn needs to turn things round quickly if he's not to be seen as a lame duck leader for the next 5 years.

Labour party conference will not vote on whether or not to scrap Trident.

Trident, a totemic issue within the Labour party, had been expected to make it through. But a deal between Labour's trade unions saw the Trident motion blocked off, after union delegates used their votes to ensure other issues topped the pile.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/09/labour-will-not-debate-trident

Even worse, Scottish Labour have already very publically committed to debating it. With no doubt half the country laughing their socks off... Since even if they vote against Trident renewal, ( and their only MP will too ).. it will show once and for all... just how little difference they actually make to UK Labour policy on reserved matters. And even 57 of 59 Scottish MP's in Westminster voting against won't make a difference either.

I think the SNP have had worse days to be honest.