Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

elantan

No not the butterfly rammy silly ... although that's fun too

elantan

https://vimeo.com/81262846

there it is ... had to go and find a computer to get it, my phone ( new one) doesnt seem to like me ... kinda like all my other phones lol

just noticed its also one year old ... first ive seen it though ... sorry

princeofpounds

I have to say I'd not come across this Common Weal thing before.


Whilst the advert was an interesting insight into the political psychology of a certain section of society, it just looks like a whole load of wishful thinking.


The plan seems to be to create high paid jobs and public services by... taxing to death the private sector.


Scotland already has the highest public spending per capita in the UK at £12.5k. It already has an epic budget deficit of 8% of GDP.


It has a fairly inline government share of GDP at 43%, IF you don't include a proportional component of UK central government spending AND you allocate North Sea production on a geographical rather than per capita basis*. The underlying level is probably around 50%.


It make me wonder - how much more money do they want to throw at the problems? And where is it supposed to come from?


*I don't really want to get into a debate about who owns the oil - geographical allocation is probably unfair because having the oil in the ground is only half the battle of monetising it. The question is somewhat moot anyway as reserve life is no longer great and at possibly low oil prices into the future, North Sea production may be competed away within a decade or two.

elantan

The common weal is a think tank that has produced loads of papers by esteemed academics and business people from across the globe to build an ideal scenario, they cover loads of different situations from housing to banking to social care and more, each idea is designed to be able for use as either a stand alone policy or to integrate with any or all of their other policies

they are an interesting g group, I don't agree with everything they say ... but it's good to discuss the subject matter and push the subjects forward

Well IMO anyway :-)

Generali

elantan wrote: »

The common weal is a think tank that has produced loads of papers by esteemed academics and business people from across the globe to build an ideal scenario, they cover loads of different situations from housing to banking to social care and more, each idea is designed to be able for use as either a stand alone policy or to integrate with any or all of their other policies

they are an interesting g group, I don't agree with everything they say ... but it's good to discuss the subject matter and push the subjects forward

Well IMO anyway :-)

From the thing I found they seem to be a tuppenny sort of outfit. He's forgotten his book, she's complaining that she's going to puke on the audience. The poetry is a sort of semi-dialectical dogma about how they thought devolution was going to be great but now they've been sold a pup.

As for the staff? The Director doesn't seem to have run anything ever. Looking at the policy unit (the first listed) we have:

1. A member of the Green party that protests stuff a lot. He's the boss.
2. A grad
3. A lobbyist who "...has a B.A in International Relations a M.Sc. in Development Management and a Washington Consensus phobia. She lives with her family in an earth sheltered passivhaus after being told it couldn't be done. A values driven public affairs professional, she communicates messages for debate and change, to influence policy makers and stakeholders through a mix of facetoface,traditional media and new media strategies."

I'd stick to the butterflies and forgotten booklets myself.

Rinoa

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Our resident SNP supporters appear to be ignoring this one Hamish.

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

From the thing I found they seem to be a tuppenny sort of outfit. He's forgotten his book, she's complaining that she's going to puke on the audience. The poetry is a sort of semi-dialectical dogma about how they thought devolution was going to be great but now they've been sold a pup.

As for the staff? The Director doesn't seem to have run anything ever. Looking at the policy unit (the first listed) we have:

1. A member of the Green party that protests stuff a lot. He's the boss.
2. A grad
3. A lobbyist who "...has a B.A in International Relations a M.Sc. in Development Management and a Washington Consensus phobia. She lives with her family in an earth sheltered passivhaus after being told it couldn't be done. A values driven public affairs professional, she communicates messages for debate and change, to influence policy makers and stakeholders through a mix of facetoface,traditional media and new media strategies."

I'd stick to the butterflies and forgotten booklets myself.

They were a very large and active part of the Yes campaign ( but as with all pro-independence groups, were never given any press ). But apart from setting up Common Space, have been pretty quiet more recently. I expect they'll reactivate if there's another ref on the horizon.

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

Our resident SNP supporters appear to be ignoring this one Hamish.

I can't read it properly. The graphic is too small. An actual link might have served better for those of us without magnifying glasses handy.

I got the bit about Salmond (meh, MP writes newspaper column and has a book to sell ).. . And the bit about the barber MP who 'moonlights' on a Saturday morning in his old premises. But all in all, thought it wasn't worth comment ( same old/same old). And it's a story that hasn't exactly garnered much attention elsewhere either.

Much more interesting is what happens when unionists start ranting on TV about SNP policy, then get pressed on what they'd do instead.

Meanwhile In Scotia ‏@MeanwhileScotia Sep 22 Lab rep spends entire time attacking council tax freeze, and then when pressed if he would raise it, says No #bbc2015

The new analysis from the Scottish Parliament Information Centre (SPICe) shows that “the money provided by the Government to freeze the council tax has resulted in local authorities receiving more income than they would have done by increasing rates by RPI%” and goes on to say that the funding given to local government was such that “it could be said that the freeze, over the period 2008-09 to 2013-14 was ‘over-funded’

Generali

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=revealed...the+hypocritical+SNP+MPs+who+fill+their+time+with+second+jobs&l=1

More than one in four SNP MPs is...working...other jobs

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Generali wrote: »

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=revealed...the+hypocritical+SNP+MPs+who+fill+their+time+with+second+jobs&l=1

And after the leader of the SNP in Westminster made a VOW that none of them would.....:cool: