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Generali

wotsthat wrote: »

I can just see the look on a job interviewer's face when they ask me if I have any faults and I tell them I don't have any, never did, never will and I'm totally awesome.

It's the arrogance of the fanatic. Every scenario ends in Scottish independence, every good thing is a result of the SNP and every problem the fault of Westminster.

100 pages ago the argument was that the problem is that Scotland doesn't control her economy. Now, as HAMISH pointed out, the Tories are doing a great job of running Britain's economy including Scotland's it's apparently all down to the SNP. You couldn't make it up!

Shakethedisease

skintmacflint wrote: »

Facts can be corrected, viewpoints can't. They can only be changed, if the argument is convincing and unfortunately SNPs and yours isn't.

Particularly when many SNP supporters are concerned there is only one truth and its SNP speak. Some even think only one political party is now needed in Scotland ie SNP.

Oh the middle income families might enjoy their frozen council tax, free uni tuition for their kids, at the expense of the effect of the less well off in education and social services from cash strapped councils.

Still doesn't mean they're going to vote for Independence when it's patently obvious what comes next.

What argument are you talking about mcskinflint not being convincing ? I think we were talking about more than in independence debate in terms of policies. And once again..

Particularly when many SNP supporters are concerned there is only one truth and its SNP speak.

... Rather than talking in total 'mystical soundbites' that mean booger all to anyone much. Other to make posters like yourself misguidedly smug thinking they 'know better' than anyone else in Scotland. It might serve you better to look into the reasons why 50% of the Scottish electorate voted SNP rather than Labour this time round.

You'll find your answers there, rather than dismissing a million plus people as deluded. <--- Patent nonsense.

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

So not a single bad thing that the SNP has ever done. All is for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds.:rotfl:

Better than a Tory led one. I think you'll find that's all that's EVER been needed in Scotland over the last 40 years or so...

And lets face it..'Corn Laws' ? In 1815- 1846 ? As a solid example of bad Tory policies in 'recent' years. You're hardly setting the debate alight. We're all still outraged at the memory... oh wait...

Shakethedisease

wotsthat wrote: »

I can just see the look on a job interviewer's face when they ask me if I have any faults and I tell them I don't have any, never did, never will and I'm totally awesome.

In an interview you always turn a negative into a positive. Surely you don't do interviews and when they ask for your faults.. and you come out with 'Oh yeah.. am total crap, and I have bad B.O as well'....

You say 'faults ?.. Well, I have a tendency to work too hard, and sometimes, I get too caught up with targets and meeting them'..

I can't believe we've got to the point someone is actually comparing the SNP to 'going for a job interview' in order to desperately troll for something, anything to sneer at. Lol..

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

It's the arrogance of the fanatic. Every scenario ends in Scottish independence, every good thing is a result of the SNP and every problem the fault of Westminster.

And Gen actually and seriously joining in !!!!!

100 pages ago the argument was that the problem is that Scotland doesn't control her economy. Now, as HAMISH pointed out, the Tories are doing a great job of running Britain's economy including Scotland's it's apparently all down to the SNP. You couldn't make it up!

Hamish is now a very, very definite minority of political opinion in Scotland. And he didn't read the article through before fawningly posting it up. He got it wrong ( and has yet to supply info to the contrary) as I pointed out, and backed up 100% no arguments in my reply on that thread. I thought you were happy to admit you were wrong ? Obviously not.

You're desperate to have the last word on this aren't you ? You're floundering I fear..

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

In an interview you always turn a negative into a positive. Surely you don't do interviews and when they ask for your faults.. and you come out with 'Oh yeah.. an total crap, and I have bad B.O as well'....

You say 'faults ?.. Well, I have a tendency to work too hard, and sometimes, I get too caught up with targets and meeting them'..

I can't believe we've got to the point someone is actually comparing the SNP to 'going for a job interview' in order to desperately troll for something, anything to sneer at. Lol..

It's what people call 'an analogy'. It's a way of introducing concepts by using familiar settings.

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

It's what people call 'an analogy'. It's a way of introducing concepts by using familiar settings.

And I believe that job interviews, are something completely different from UK/Scottish politics. I think most normal people would. And certainly nothing that would make me say 'Mmmmm yes, you're sooooo right with that'... Lets compare the SNP with a job interview, find the most tenuous link.. then dive in to another seriously tenuous link about 'fanatics'. Then bring some old flannel Hamish posted on another thread as 'proof'.

It's like that Kevin Bacon six degrees thing in action. The SNP are just another political party. Successful at the moment. No-one knows how long the party will last. But the leaps and bounds in here..

In all honesty, in terms of what really BAD policies haven't gone down well with the Scottish public, or myself in recent years ? Something in comparison to implementation of the the Poll tax, while in power in Scotland ? There isn't one. I'm sorry if that's an inconvenient fact for you. And am sure at some point something will come along and annoy loads of Scottish voters. But, the polls have only been going one way for the SNP for the last 8 years. And that isn't because they have been introducing loads of policies which p**s the Scots off. How could it be ?

Unpopular policies, I'm afraid, were Labour in Holyrood, and the Tories/Lib Dems in Westminster. It's why the SNP have done so well. No need for analogies. Just logic. *shrugs*

skintmacflint

Shakethedisease wrote: »

What argument are you talking about mcskinflint not being convincing ? I think we were talking about more than in independence debate in terms of policies. And once again..



... Rather than talking in total 'mystical soundbites' that mean booger all to anyone much. Other to make posters like yourself misguidedly smug thinking they 'know better' than anyone else in Scotland. It might serve you better to look into the reasons why 50% of the Scottish electorate voted SNP rather than Labour this time round.

You'll find your answers there, rather than dismissing a million plus people as deluded. <--- Patent nonsense.

Tsk Tsk, no need to get all stroppy and throw your toys out the pram. maybe time you let some other SNP defender take over on the forum.

No need for me , or anyone else to look into the reasons why 50 % of the electorate voted SNP . Im very well aware of them, and they've been mentioned and listed numerous times on this forum by several people including myself. Still doesnt make them credible or good reasons , just populist reasons.

I'm more interested in knowing what turned you as someone who said they weren't very interested or involved in politics, and naively believed everything they read in the MSM , from a fluffy Lib Dem voter , into a Nat. Because like it or not , it is what you have evolved into.

Now I have friends who voted for Independence, and have known a long time SNP councillor for several years. We have our different opinions on thingsgranted, but I wouldn't say they were deluded or ever have been. Even the Councillor (has commented in private )sometimes feels like marching outside Holyrood to protest at their handling of our Education and Social Services . But sadly from your posts , as this thread has developed , it seems you are one of the deluded IMO. See the difference? If not perhaps you should reflect on that for a while.

Mistermeaner

In politics and life in general it's good practice to try and take credit for the good and distance yourself from the bad regardless of your level of involvement. No-one should be criticised for this as its all part of the game.

The snp are basically Scotland's ukip, riding a wave of biggotted anti englishness drawing out the thick and poor in droves based on uneconomical socialist policies - anyone with half a brain knows scotland will be fooked without the rouk but as the snp know that independence won't happen they can continue exploiting the ignorance and racism of the Scots to continue to pursue their self serving egotistical agenda. IMO

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And Gen actually and seriously joining in !!!!!

Hamish is now a very, very definite minority of political opinion in Scotland. And he didn't read the article through before fawningly posting it up. He got it wrong ( and has yet to supply info to the contrary) as I pointed out, and backed up 100% no arguments in my reply on that thread. I thought you were happy to admit you were wrong ? Obviously not.

You're desperate to have the last word on this aren't you ? You're floundering I fear..

Just because you are in the minority doesn't make you wrong.

ANALOGY ALERT
Galileo and Copernicus were in the minority in believing in heliocentrism but were still correct.