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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Mistermeaner
    Mistermeaner Posts: 3,024 Forumite
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    I dont want the UK gvernment to withdraw the bedroom tax - I think its completely fair.

    Working people buy houses that meet their needs and that they can afford.

    Why should the state fund spare rooms?

    Downsizing should be mandatory - allowing people to keep their spare room but pay for it is generous already.
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Generali
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    Indeed.

    We spend around £15bn a year more than we take in.

    While it is true that the whole UK runs a deficit as well, if we kept our deficit proportional to the UK level as a percentage of GDP, we would have an £8bn per year hole in our finances.

    That £8bn per year is a direct subsidy to Scotland, by the taxpayers of the rUK, so the SNP have no reason to be celebrating any sort of fiscal responsibility.



    One of the actions 'they' could take is to stop subsidising Scotland with all this extra money....

    Which would in turn force Swinney to cut an amount roughly equivalent to the entire council and local services spend from the Scottish budget each year in order to truly "balance the books".

    I doubt that's what you had in mind though.....;)

    TBH I've never understood why the London >> the rest (except the SE and SW of England) isn't an issue in London. I've never heard anyone mention let alone moan about it despite London having some of the poorest boroughs in the UK.

    One day it will become a political issue and at that point much of the rest of the UK is going to have a very hard time .
  • chewmylegoff
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    elantan wrote: »
    You could always ask John Swinney to take control of your money, he manages to balance the books always and George doesnt seem to manage at all ... not sure he would be willing to mind you

    It is very easy to balance the books if you are only allowed to spend the amount that you are given and have no ability to borrow money.

    For instance a child who spends all their pocket money on sweets has balanced books but that is simply evidence that they can spend all the money they are given, not that they are a budgeting genius.
  • elantan
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    Maybe then the Uk government shouldnt spend money it doesnt have ?
  • Mistermeaner
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    What a daft thing to say
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  • elantan
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    lol ... well if Scotland cant spend money it doesnt have why should WM get to ?
  • antrobus
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    Generali wrote: »
    .... I've never heard anyone mention let alone moan about it despite London having some of the poorest boroughs in the UK....

    Ken Livingstone was always banging on about it. As in; give me even more money to spend in London.
  • chewmylegoff
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    elantan wrote: »
    Maybe then the Uk government shouldnt spend money it doesnt have ?

    Ok. Although if that happens Scotland will have to cut its public spending by about £8 billion per annum. The SNP want more borrowed money to spend not less.

    Scotland is spending borrowed money already - the UK government borrows it and gives it to the Scottish government who spend it.
  • Mistermeaner
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    Imagine a world without borrowed money. No investment, no mortgages, no loans.

    Previous posts by elentan I thought were fairly reasoned even if disagreed with them but saying uk government shouldn't borrow money is just rediculous.
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  • ggb1979 wrote: »
    Imagine a world without borrowed money. No investment, no mortgages, no loans.

    Previous posts by elentan I thought were fairly reasoned even if disagreed with them but saying uk government shouldn't borrow money is just rediculous.

    Not quite sure what you mean - does the government not want to run a budget surplus? If there is a budget surplus, the intention is surely to pay off, (eventually), the national debt. So, no new borrowing, and old borrowing being paid off.

    I thought that's what the Conservatives want?

    WR
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