Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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What exactly is your problem with that kabayri? Because you seem to have one. I'm lost...and I'm starting to think you definitely are.

I can tell you are lost.

Finally, something we can agree on

Leanne1812

elantan wrote: »

Have you ever been made aware of the violence towards people that vote SNP ? or want independence?

Probably not Elantan as we all know it is a tiny minority on both sides causing friction. Some like to make a bigger deal. Its not constructive to the debate but every day on Twitter I read of incidents towards SNP candidates & activists. It's fear of the rise in support for the party. It's one way to show disdain and try to discredit the party although any incidents are absolutely condemned by the SNP.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Leanne1812 wrote: »

every day on Twitter I read of incidents towards SNP candidates & activists..

Ah, then maybe you can show me the pictures or video/audio tapes where Labour or Tory supporters are outside an SNP rally threatening to Execute Nicola sturgeon?

How about any of Labour or Tory supporters video taping children entering an SNP convention and screaming that their parents are traitors?

Again, both those things happened this week at a Labour event, and the perpetrators were SNP supporters.

.string.

So now the SNP want to add Labour to their childhood list of Monsters, nothing new there. Anyone who is not SNP is automatically vilified.

If the SNP can get past the hysterics, they need to get it into their heads that in a Democracy parties ally with other parties they respect or can work with. The SNP is neither. What they are witnessing is solidarity with the decision of the Scottish Referendum.

Aberdeenangarse

elantan wrote: »

Have you ever been made aware of the violence towards people that vote SNP ? or want independence?

No I haven't, but there's been plenty of evidence of violence towards people who didn't vote SNP and didn't want Independence. Do you condone that?

elantan

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Can you show me the pictures or video/audio tapes where Labour or Tory supporters are outside an SNP rally threatening to Execute Nicola sturgeon?

How about any of Labour or Tory supporters video taping children entering an SNP convention and screaming that their parents are traitors?

No?

Didn't think so....:cool:

And for reference, both those things happened this week from SNP supporters.

It is totally out of control, and most (not all, but most) of the abuse is coming from the SNP camp.

how about trying to run the first minister off the road ? would that suffice for your competition? chucking a chair from a verandah at supporters? threatening to put two bullets between a persons eyes ? the list really goes on and on

Leanne1812

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Well it clearly won't make the slightest bit of difference to the 45% or so of the voter turnout that will vote SNP, as they are already voting for a party that has vowed to break up the UK.

The majority however, that do not support either independence or the SNP, will learn that it is not possible at the moment to split the majority Unionist vote between three parties while the minority Separatist vote coalesces behind one party.

Electing the SNP can only diminish Scotland's influence in the UK.

Hamish you agreed that some No voters will support SNP in this election. It's nothing to do with independence for them. They like SNP policies. The SNP have said they will be a force for good for all the people of the UK. They even have support throughout the UK with many wishing they could vote for them! You seem to think it's a case of oh well, no one will deal with them so we just have to accept being frozen out and get on with it. I think it will be disastrous for the UK if they are not welcomed and included.

kabayiri

.string. wrote: »

So now the SNP want to add Labour to their childhood list of Monsters, nothing new there. Anyone who is not SNP is automatically vilified.

If the SNP can get past the hysterics, they need to get it into their heads that in a Democracy parties ally with other parties they respect or can work with. The SNP is neither. What they are witnessing is solidarity with the decision of the Scottish Referendum.

Up until recently Labour had a long spell in power with significant Scottish presence in the cabinet.

The effects were pretty clear. A prolonged spell of socialist spending, something Nicola herself would be pleased with given her +0.5% GDP manifesto item. A good chunk of that spendy spendy will have ended up in Scotland, not least on a very expensive shiny shiny Holyrood building.

The lesson is clear. Want a stronger guarantee of socialist spending? Vote Labour.

All this talk of unfairness is just bunkum. We all have a choice.

Shakethedisease

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Can you show me the pictures or video/audio tapes where Labour or Tory supporters are outside an SNP rally threatening to Execute Nicola sturgeon?

How about any of Labour or Tory supporters video taping children entering an SNP convention and screaming that their parents are traitors?

No?

Didn't think so....:cool:

Not so quick... There's loads more where they came from too. I couldn't be bothered pasting any more up. I've personally seen Nicola Sturgeon threatened online many times. Like I said. Nutters on both sides. Not representative of most of us thankfully.

A former Merseyside council leader was arrested and charged with assault as she campaigned against Scottish independence at a polling station in Glasgow.
Marie Rimmer, who has been on St Helens council for more than three decades, was held after, the ECHO understands, a woman was kicked at a community centre in the Shettleston area of Glasgow around lunchtime as Scots turned out to cast their vote in the landmark referendum.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/former-merseyside-council-leader-marie-7795001

A PRO-INDEPENDENCE campaigner has been assaulted on Edinburgh’s Royal Mile by a woman who was outraged at his Yes placard.


• Police examine CCTV footage to catch elderly man’s attacker.
• ‘Monstrous woman’ broke campaigner’s wrist by pushing him to the ground.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-campaigner-80-attacked-1-3077094

AN SNP activist had to lock herself in a campaign office for her own safety after being terrorised by a gang of thugs.
The 12-strong group of men were walking behind an Orange Order flute band procession when they stopped to launch a tirade of abuse at a lone female volunteer inside the office in Glasgow and began banging on windows and kicking the door trying to get in.
While attacking the office in Dumbarton Road, the woman was verbally abused with shouts of “f*** your SNP”, “yous are a********” and “why don’t you get to f***” However, they fled before police arrived.

http://www.thenational.scot/news/party-activist-trapped-as-glasgow-snp-office-is-attacked-by-a-gang-of-thugs.2557

Scottish independence campaigners have been attacked by a mob outside Tynecastle.


It is understood that at least three people were injured in the attack on Saturday afternoon.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/yes-campaigners-attacked-by-mob-outside-tynecastle-1-3527125

A YES campaigner dad has called in police after a chair was allegedly thrown from a balcony at his eight-year-old son.
Schoolboy Kieran Loudon was campaigning with dad Gavin alongside independence stalwart Jim Sillars when a chair came crashing down from the balcony.
Gavin said it was thrown by a woman who had been heckling former SNP deputy leader Sillars about the NHS.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/dads-fury-son-narrowly-avoids-4141853

A man has appeared in court over alleged online threats against First Minister Alex Salmond.


Steven Thomson, 43, from Renfrew, was charged with threatening or abusive behaviour under Section 38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010.
He made no plea or declaration during the appearance at Haddington Sheriff Court today and was released on bail.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/man-in-court-over-alex-salmond-twitter-abuse-1-3458806

Jail for man who threatened to slit Alex Salmond’s throat

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/475072/Jail-for-man-who-threatened-to-slit-Alex-Salmond-s-throat

ALEX Salmond called in cops after a road rage maniac chased his official car waving a homemade No sign.
Crazed driver Murdo McDonald, 21, tailed the First Minister’s Lexus before twice overtaking him during the drama on the A90 near Dundee.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/5863830/Better-tailgater.html

Men, women in children draped in Union Jacks and carrying banners associated with Orange Lodges in Glasgow, said they were in the square to celebrate the "saving of the union". However the chants, songs and behaviour resembled a football crowd rather than a political march.
The two sides were initially separated by a human cordon of police officers, shouting insults at each other and waving flags. The pro-Union group shouted: "We love Scotland more than you", "Alex Salmond is a w*nker" and "You let your country down".
The Yes campaigners gradually dispersed, but the number of pro-Union supporters steadily increased to around 500. After a sudden surge from the crowd, police appeared to lose control of the demonstration

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scottish-referendum-unionists-and-independence-supporters-separated-by-police-in-glasgows-george-square-9745333.html

Scottish independence: Video emerges of referendum 'assault

A video has emerged which appears to show a supporter of the United Kingdom kicking out at a female protestor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29020575

A man has appeared in court charged with posting a message on Twitter threatening to assassinate First Minister Alex Salmond.
Christopher Stevenson, 25, is accused of making the comment saying "think I might assassinate Alex Salmond" on January 28.

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/262687-twitter-user-threatened-to-assassinate-first-minister-alex-salmond/

kabayiri

Leanne1812 wrote: »

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The SNP have said they will be a force for good for all the people of the UK. They even have support throughout the UK with many wishing they could vote for them!
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Support throughout the UK. Don't make me laugh. Do you know how arrogant you sound?

"force for good" ... any idiot can load up the UK credit card with debt and buy goodness. Making sure *we* pay it back and not lump it on our children? That's the hard bit.