Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Generali

zagubov wrote: »

Having lived here for thirty years I'm so underwhelmed about the London-based press's understanding and coverage of Scotland and Scottish issues that I'm frankly surprised and even a bit impressed when they spell SNP correctly.

But that's usually all they get right.;)

Scotland's population is about a 13th of the UK's and broadly the same as Yorkshire's. I suspect that coverage of Scotland in British newspapers is better and deeper than that of Yorkshire.

I don't think The Sun has a Yorkshire Edition for example.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Scotland's population is about a 13th of the UK's and broadly the same as Yorkshire's. I suspect that coverage of Scotland in British newspapers is better and deeper than that of Yorkshire.

I don't think The Sun has a Yorkshire Edition for example.

If it had a separate sporting identity I think it would.

The coverage of Scotland is now a bit better since the parliament started, but the accuracy of the reporting's abysmal, mainly due to political spin.

The worst of it is most people up there don't even trust the Scottish mainstream media. 31 newspapers, all unionist. That's a perversion of a "free press". It's not even profitable - most of the newspapers are shedding readers at a terrible rate, but it was only near the end of the campaign that the Sunday Herald and the Shetland News broke ranks (and neither of them's a daily).

That's a shocking situation for a country's media to be in; as for what the Torygraph just printed, well, that's actually a bit sad, as if your best story against somebody is something you have to make up or mishear it, you haven't got anything. Plus the timing makes them look petty, peeved and untrustable.

skintmacflint

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And before anyone else mentions it the Telegraph is running a front page scoop today... Which they are very shortly going to have to print a grovelling apology for ( if they aren't already pulping the copies ).

Think this was the first post mentioning it Shake. Cave life is very relaxing, you should try it sometimes. Lol.

skintmacflint

Maybe SNP have learned something from the Independence Ref after all. Otherwise this could be pot kettle black double standards.

During the leader debates while discussing possible forced exit from EU due to a Referendum, Sturgeon turned on the others saying

"If there are changes needing done in the European Union Then surely the best thing to do is to try to build alliances to make those changes , not act like a petulant school child threatening to leave if you don't get your way. It's better to try to work together for that change."

Shame it took 2 years of hard campaigning and god knows how much money wasted , for her to finally realise this.

kabayiri

skintmacflint wrote: »

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During the leader debates while discussing possible forced exit from EU due to a Referendum, Sturgeon turned on the others saying

"If there are changes needing done in the European Union Then surely the best thing to do is to try to build alliances to make those changes , not act like a petulant school child threatening to leave if you don't get your way. It's better to try to work together for that change."

Shame it took 2 years of hard campaigning and god knows how much money wasted , for her to finally realise this.

Ahh, so it isn't only academics who fail to practise what they preach.

If the SNP could prove that they can turn Scotland into a powerhouse region outpunching above it's weight with current resources two things would happen :

a) they would attract attention from the rest of us, in a postive way and not negative

b) they would be better placed to weather the early economic struggles following independence, following the subsidy withdrawal from the government.

elantan

So much hatred and attention for the people of Scotland, we must be doing something right change is a coming

ruggedtoast

I believe Sturgeon has landed a body blow on the political elites that has left Camerocleggillipede gasping.

Would anyone from an English Lab Lib Con constituency raise your hand if you truly believe your MP gives a single solitary monkeys about people from your region over any other?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

How about anyone who believes their MP could actually talk for 5 minutes on what makes the region they represent unique, distinct, and different from the rest of the UK?

No of course not. Some of the more principled MPs espouse the general values of their party, and some seem to try pretty hard in the surgeries they hold. But their first allegiance is to their party. Their constituents get to fit in with that, not the other way around.

There was a spotlight thrown onto this the other night. Scots are the only UK region who have politicians working for them. All Cleggeropedeomon could do was mouth vapid platitudes about growth and taxes. Pathetic.

Where is my English Sturgeon?

.string.

elantan wrote: »

So much hatred and attention or the people of Scotland, we must be doing something right change is a coming

That's a pretty vapid remark, elanten. Your remark about hated of Scots is simply not true; but claiming credit for such a thing merely underlines that fermenting division is a strategic tool of the YES Conpaign and your SNP Heroes.

Leanne1812

kabayiri wrote: »

To the pro-independence supporters here, a question :

If offered independence tomorrow, would you take it?

Yes, I would still take it.

I'll await the onslaught of imminent Armageddon........

Leanne1812

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I believe Sturgeon has landed a body blow on the political elites that has left Camerocleggillipede gasping.

Would anyone from an English Lab Lib Con constituency raise your hand if you truly believe your MP gives a single solitary monkeys about people from your region over any other?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

How about anyone who believes their MP could actually talk for 5 minutes on what makes the region they represent unique, distinct, and different from the rest of the UK?

No of course not. Some of the more principled MPs espouse the general values of their party, and some seem to try pretty hard in the surgeries they hold. But their first allegiance is to their party. Their constituents get to fit in with that, not the other way around.

There was a spotlight thrown onto this the other night. Scots are the only UK region who have politicians working for them. All Cleggeropedeomon could do was mouth vapid platitudes about growth and taxes. Pathetic.

Where is my English Sturgeon?

Rugged, you are getting it. I wish some of the others could too....

I think the referendum awakened a lot of scots who previously plodded along thinking, this system isn't really working but hey-ho that's what we've got and we'll just have to accept it. We just got on with our daily lives without giving too much thought into how our country is run. Now we really do think we have a voice and we are going to use it for change. Our hopes are pinned on the SNP to try and make this change happen. They offer the only alternative and we are lapping it up in droves.

I had a conversation with my mother today about the (trash) newspapers she reads. I asked what they were saying about Nicola Sturgeon, her response "everyone is loving her, even down south they are signing up to the SNP".

I'm loving it, people looking for a credible alternative to what's currently on offer see it in Nicola Sturgeon & the SNP.