universal credit sanctions.

bloolagoon

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Depends on the type of job I suppose. 35 hours was the norm for office work.

I suppose but 40 hours is the new norm. Plenty of friends office based (though public sector) it's the typical full time hours.

Perhaps part of the screw employees for more ethos or job role I'm not sure but my opinion it's normal for 40 hrs with unpaid OT thrown in. I work 23 hours (3 days) and never work under 25, I suspect things change as employment trends do.

rogerblack

blondebubbles wrote: »

There is no official full time hours. I work 37 and am full time. I know others who work 35 and 40.

Well - 48 hours would be one definition, as you can't get fuller than that! (legally - working time directive)

JustKeepSwimming_2

rogerblack wrote: »

Well - 48 hours would be one definition, as you can't get fuller than that! (legally - working time directive)

blondebubbles wrote: »

Which you can choose to opt out of.

Or which you can be put under a lot of pressure to opt out of - a national chain I used to contract in (as a self employed person) wouldn't employ people at a certain grade unless they "opted out" of WTD. It was the workers choice, of course....Not sure about the legality of that :rotfl:

37 hours/week is classed as f/t where I work.

Batman_100

So am I correct in thinking that the mo ey you get under UC for looking for extra work is in place of tax credits under the old system?

I live in an area where UC hasn't been rolled out yet and I work 25 hours a week. I live with my parents and my Dad earns £40k+ a years so I'm not eligible for works tax credit. So is it the case that when UC starts in my area, I won't have anything to lose financially if I decide I'm content with working 25 hours a week and don't want to go back to the job centre to prove I'm looking for work.

rogerblack

Batman_100 wrote: »

So is it the case that when UC starts in my area, I won't have anything to lose financially if I decide I'm content with working 25 hours a week and don't want to go back to the job centre to prove I'm looking for work.

UC will eventually replace tax credits, yes, but it is not paid at the same rate.

In the long-term - if you are content with working for 25*NMW per week - and you refuse to do more, then you will not be entitled to UC.
(assuming there are no caring or other responsibilities).
There is nothing stopping you working 25*NWM or even 10* - and not claiming UC.

Your fathers earnings are irrelevant as I understand it.

It should also be noted that for single young people without health conditions or housing costs, UC will taper to 0 at well under 35*NMW - and at that point there is no requirement to seek more work.

For a single childless person, the work allowance is 111 pounds a month.
This means, you can earn this without affecting your UC payment - which for the same claimant would start at 250 pounds a month.
UC is tapered at 65p in the pound - so, you need to get 250 pounds / .65 more than this in order to null the award.
I make this 384+111, or 495/mo.
This is 114 a week earnings.

Or a little over 17 hours.

If you have housing costs, or a non-working partner - this can go up substantially.

Batman_100

But the question I'm asking is that even if I do decide to look for more work, I won't be getting any more money because I'm not currently entitled to tax credits. Is that correct?

Poppie68

Batman_100 wrote: »

But the question I'm asking is that even if I do decide to look for more work, I won't be getting any more money because I'm not currently entitled to tax credits. Is that correct?

Your parents income is irrelevant, even living in the same house you will classed as 2 separate households.
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MissMoneypenny

blondebubbles wrote: »

There is no official full time hours.

Not yet. However there is for those that want a work visa in the UK and their week is 37.5 and expected to be 40 at some point.

The only people I know who work less than 40 hours a week, are the ones claiming tax credits or they are a state worker.

MissMoneypenny

rogerblack wrote: »

Well - 48 hours would be one definition, as you can't get fuller than that! (legally - working time directive)

London would grind to a halt if they stuck to those hours.

MissMoneypenny

Batman_100 wrote: »

I live in an area where UC hasn't been rolled out yet and I work 25 hours a week. I live with my parents and my Dad earns £40k+ a years so I'm not eligible for works tax credit.

That sounds like you're not claiming any income based benefits.

Batman_100 wrote: »

So is it the case that when UC starts in my area, I won't have anything to lose financially if I decide I'm content with working 25 hours a week and don't want to go back to the job centre to prove I'm looking for work.

If you don't ask for benefits to pay for you, then you won't be told to 'earn more money or face benefit conditions'.