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  • orrery
    orrery Posts: 833 Forumite
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    stylus360 wrote: »
    So just ignore that they are classed as a '2B carcinogen' ?

    This is the old "Don't put mobile phone towers on my school" argument. Microwaves are dangerous. If you have 1kW of microwaves, you can do a lot of damage, just as if you have a 1kW single bar electric heater you can do a lot of damage. Stick it on a school on top of a 10 metre pole and the kids in the playground haven't got anything to worry about - it isn't even going to keep them warm in the winter, but you still need a H&S notice on the 10 metre pole warning of the danger of going near it.

    If you use a mobile phone then your risk (if there is one) is placing the handset near to your head - simply through the application of the inverse square law. You can reduce the risk to your kids by making sure that there IS a mobile base station on the roof of the school so that the handset switches to minimum power. Odd that isn't it? The kids at lowest risk will be those attending a school that invites all the networks to put a base station on the roof.

    We have so much experience of microwave use that we know that it is either harmless, or so close to harmless that it makes no difference.

    So, if you are worried about it then best avoid high power levels of microwave radiation by never using a mobile handset next to your head or putting your head similarly very close to an aerial.
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  • lstar337
    lstar337 Posts: 3,443 Forumite
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    stylus360 wrote: »
    I'm never in and i do as i first stated, just log in online, put my readings in a pay my bill, i'm paperless so its my only option.

    I have a TV aerial on my roof but it's not even connected anymore.

    The facts are that Smart Meters have been shown to emit up to 190,000 pulses of RF radiation per day. A report issued by the CCST in California showed - using the industry’s own data - that Smart Meters can expose people to 160 times more RF radiation than mobile phones. See here:
    http://www.electrosmogprevention.org/public-health-alert/smart-meters-radiation-exposure-up-to-160-times-more-than-cell-phones-hirsch/

    There is nothing stopping an energy company installing a bank of 50 smart meters on the other side of a wall to a baby’s cot.

    If people are unclear about why the WHO//IARC saw it fit to upgrade the categorisation of RF radiation from Smart Meters and WiFi to a class 2B carcinogen in 2008, show them this:

    http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/dr-erica-mallery-blythe-electromagnetic-radiation-health-and-children-2014/

    It is a very good and recent presentation on the subject.

    Better to be safe than sorry in my opinion, if anyone else wants to take an UNNECESSARY RISK then go ahead !!
    Stop Spamming the forum with tripe.
  • orrery
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    stylus360 wrote: »

    Is it really? I stopped watching where she put up a headline from The Sun, then the text, which said something different, then further text dated 2014 which referenced UK mobile network One-2-One (which hasn't existed since 2002).

    She is nice to look at, though.
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  • tangoev
    tangoev Posts: 14 Forumite
    Any advice on reading an OVO Secure Liberty 100 Smart Meter. It has no manual, no instructions and the meter has an A and a B button but no menu.

    How does these work?
  • orrery
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    tangoev wrote: »
    Any advice on reading an OVO Secure Liberty 100 Smart Meter. It has no manual, no instructions and the meter has an A and a B button but no menu. How does these work?

    On the electric or gas, hit '9' and it runs through a set of readings. I videoed it with my smart-phone to work it out.

    The first reading on the electric is IMP KWH, which is Import kWh - the normal meter reading to one decimal place,

    On the gas, the first is VOLUME in cubic metres, the second is IMP kWh.

    You can ignore all the others. If you press any other number you get a different set of readings - I'll video those one day to work them out, when I've got time.
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  • Just had a new digital meter installed, even he stated he would never have a SMART meter, the amount of call outs is them is 50% of his work.
  • Terry98
    Terry98 Posts: 1,155 Forumite
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    stylus360 wrote: »
    Just had a new digital meter installed, even he stated he would never have a SMART meter, the amount of call outs is them is 50% of his work.

    He must be moving abroad soon as every home in the country is supposed to have one fitted by 2020:D
  • orrery
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    stylus360 wrote: »
    Just had a new digital meter installed, even he stated he would never have a SMART meter, the amount of call outs is them is 50% of his work.

    I guess we have to calibrate our expectations:
    - the old meters are tried and tested and have been around for years
    - they're fairly new
    - they're much more complicated than the old ones
    - they rely on communications
    - new products suffer infant mortality
    - the companies don't know how to drive them

    So, we're seeing exactly what we'd expect, really.
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  • Plus he stated they require replacing more often !!!

    He was laughing that my old meter was 14 years old !!!, they have a 10 year life span.
  • brewerdave
    brewerdave Posts: 8,710 Forumite
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    Recently had my 28 year old leccy meter replaced under the auspices of EON -I asked if I'd be getting a smart meter - he looked a bit blank then said that they hadn't even started with smart meters in my region.....but that he had been very busy replacing standard meters since Xmas !! -his view (alright I know he was only a foot soldier:)) was that I MIGHT get a smart meter in 20 years time at the next meter swop!
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