Stay or go? EU poll - Oh the irony.

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

so in your view the average Australian would love to be able to give up their sovereignty, control of their immigration policy, increase the cost of electricity and fuel, extradition policy etc but no-one wants to rule over them?

I answered your previous question perfectly well.

Now you seem to be asking if anyone else wants to rule Aus. Nobody seems to have stated as much but there seems to be an assumption that Indonesia would invade given half a chance.

The rest of your answer is the usual straw man crap that I hoped you'd refrain from but, as always when dealing with [STRIKE]racists[/STRIKE] nationalists they are unable to remain rational and resort to abuse because there is no rational argument for [STRIKE]racism[/STRIKE] nationalism.

Why do you hate foreigners?

Generali

danothy wrote: »

I wonder if Nigel Farage sits in his home telling his family that he's sick of having his personal liberties taken from him by them, while implying that he doesn't have any influence over how the household is run and threatening to leave.

Only his German wife.

Obviously there weren't any British employees that were any good as he had to resort to employing a foreigner.

Once he was disallowed from employing her under EU rules she managed to find a new job..........working for another UKIP MEP.

The hypocrisy is staggering or at least it would be if UKIP weren't a bunch of racist !!!!!wits that can't even work out who they hate!

:T:T:T

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

so in your view the average Australian would love to be able to give up their sovereignty, control of their immigration policy, increase the cost of electricity and fuel, extradition policy etc but no-one wants to rule over them?

wotsthat wrote: »

You're exaggerating. The UK hasn't given up her sovereignty, control of borders or anything else. We're in a club where we are active participants in setting the rules. Our position is a negotiated one rather than an imposed defeat.

Admittedly it's becoming more untenable by the day as UKIP are intent on damaging relationships from within to force an exit and Cameron is admirably demonstrating what a spineless git he is by hopping on the bandwagon.

Aren't you finding it difficult to sleep at night knowing you agree with Graham on anything of any substance?

Let's be clear. CLAPTON isn't exaggerating, (s)he's making up a bunch of things that don't happen and wondering why a Government I can't vote for doesn't do those things.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

UKIP and all her happy followers are the 'acceptable' face of the NF/BNP. I'm not racist but I'd rather not see half an aisle in Tecbury's turned over to garlic, Vegemite and pickles. Apart from Vegemite of course because Aussies are [STRIKE]white[/STRIKE] have a close affinity with Britain.

mayonnaise

Generali wrote: »

Why do you hate foreigners?

Is this the same Clapton who time and time again called anyone in favour of Scottish independence a racist? ('anyone but the English').
Is he now advocating little england isolationism and 'anyone but Europe'? How things change.

Generali

mayonnaise wrote: »

Is this the same Clapton who time and time again called anyone in favour of Scottish independence a racist? ('anyone but the English').
Is he now advocating little england isolationism and 'anyone but Europe'? How things change.

I'm not racist but...

ruggedtoast

I am going to be furious if a bunch of Graham's vote me out of Europe then leave me paying for their dole.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

You're exaggerating. The UK hasn't given up her sovereignty, control of borders or anything else. We're in a club where we are active participants in setting the rules. Our position is a negotiated one rather than an imposed defeat.

Admittedly it's becoming more untenable by the day as UKIP are intent on damaging relationships from within to force an exit and Cameron is admirably demonstrating what a spineless git he is by hopping on the bandwagon.

Aren't you finding it difficult to sleep at night knowing you agree with Graham on anything of any substance?

As long as we are a member of the club then we have given up our sovereignty and control of our borders and much else beside.


The option is leave or conform. There is no negotiation.


Your view of Graham or Cameron is not relevant to the essential lose of UK parliamentary control of our policies (and adds nothing to the debate).

N1AK

leveller2911 wrote: »

You lack confidence or as we call it down here b*llocks.

Thank god that you talk enough of them for us all

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Is this the same Clapton who time and time again called anyone in favour of Scottish independence a racist? ('anyone but the English').
Is he now advocating little england isolationism and 'anyone but Europe'? How things change.

I didn't not call everyone in favour of Scottish independence a racist but rather those that believed the ABTE and those that thought that Flower of Scotland was a suitable anthem for the 21st century and those that expressed a generalise dislike of the English.

ruggedtoast

Countries the size of the UK don't get to be independent. They are either controlled by America, menaced by Russia and China, or churning around desperately in the wake of all three.

Or they are part of Europe.

Those are the options and no amount of posturing by ukip ninnies will change that.

At least in Europe we have a decent amount of say over our own politics, and are not completely forced to follow a right wing free market political strategy that doesn't suit us, which is the price exacted for American protection.