Time for adult only flights

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Nick_C wrote: »

Would you care to provide a link to this evidence?

Scoot, Air Asia X, and Malaysian all offer child free cabins on some flights.

Richard Branson is investigating special cabins for children. See http://consumerist.com/2014/07/24/richard-branson-wants-to-introduce-kids-class-cabins-to-virgin-flights/

Do a google search on the subject, there is a lot of demand for child free zones on flights.

You've proved the point yourself. You've been unable to find an airline offering adult only flights. There is no market for them.

Incidentally the Virgin plan could be read entirely the other way round. It sounds like a way to entice more families with children on board - an in-flight crèche would be an ideal way to do that.

jb66

They could have a small area at the back where kids could sit on a carpet and play with toys, its really hard to keep a 2 year old content on a flight, anyone who has had kids knows this

meer53

jb66 wrote: »

They could have a small area at the back where kids could sit on a carpet and play with toys, its really hard to keep a 2 year old content on a flight, anyone who has had kids knows this

What a stupid idea. Who would leave a 2 year old to play at the back of a plane ? The parents need to be close by, where are you planning on putting them whilst the kids play ? Can you imagine the chaos when the "fasten your seat belt" signs come on during a flight ?

With planning, it's possible these days to keep kids occupied on flights, even long haul.

hpuse

meer53 wrote: »

With planning, it's possible these days to keep kids occupied on flights, even long haul.

Any plan could fail...what if the 'plan to keep kids occupied' fails?

TighterThanTwoCoatsOfPain

haras_nosirrah wrote: »

Having recently been on the other side it can be pretty horrendous from the other side.

We went on our first family holiday to Crete so about a 4 hour flight. On the way out my son (22 months) was fine. Unfortunately we had an echoey restaurant on holiday and my son discovered he could make a high pitch shrieking noise and that he liked the sound and that he got a reaction from us - in the restaurant it was a warning followed by a removal from the restaurant and back to the room if he carried on

The plane home was horrendous as he started the shrieking while we were taking off. My son is at an age where you cannot reason with him - he doesn't understand and is purely motivated by getting a reaction. I was so embarrassed and apologising to everyone and after 10 mins my husband broke and gagged him by keeping his hand across his mouth to try and stop him while I was sat there in tears.

Don't think that the parents don't care or that we are a chavy benefit mums who can't control their kids - it is incredibly embarrassing as in an aeroplane environment you cannot remove them from the situation and the 2 year olds don't understand and cannot be reasoned with. If you are getting into the idea of segregation how far will you take it... A section where disabled people can't sit in case they upset others? What about the overweight or those with unfortunate odours? They must be put in their own sections so they don't disrupt anyone. If you want a middle class adults only section then pay for business class.

I was agreeing all the way until you got to the end. Disabled section? Come on... Not really the same at all is it.

Overweight? Hell yes. If you're overweight, do NOT spill into my seat. You should buy two seats if you need it. I'm not talking overweight, I mean properly obese. I have been on the receiving end and it was disgusting. I actually had his sweat patch on me after a 1h flight.

Odours? Not really any excuses here. I you have a medical issue there are products you can buy.

I doing a 8h with my 2yo and dreading it, for me as much as the surrounding passengers. Longest previously was a 4h and she was a little darling, but who knows how this will go down!!

aileth

Yes, crying children can be a problem on flights. However, drunken or aggressive or abusive adults are much more of a problem. I would take a crying child any day over some of the slobs I've had the misfortune of flying with.

Kids can make a long flight more interesting as well. We are childless, but one of the main memories I have of past holidays and which always brings a smile to my face is flying to Tokyo and a young lad, maybe 7-8 years old, sat with his tablet and watched how to train your dragon on repeat for the whole 11-12 hour flight. He must've watched it at least five times. I wouldn't have that memory if it were childless cabins, and it is the only memory out of god knows how many long haul flights that I can remember!

Cheer up, people, and consider how the parents must feel when their little one starts kicking off. They probably want the child to stop even more than you do!

hollydays

TighterThanTwoCoatsOfPain wrote: »

I was agreeing all the way until you got to the end. Disabled section? Come on... Not really the same at all is it.

Overweight? Hell yes. If you're overweight, do NOT spill into my seat. You should buy two seats if you need it. I'm not talking overweight, I mean properly obese. I have been on the receiving end and it was disgusting. I actually had his sweat patch on me after a 1h flight.

Odours? Not really any excuses here. I you have a medical issue there are products you can buy.

I doing a 8h with my 2yo and dreading it, for me as much as the surrounding passengers. Longest previously was a 4h and she was a little darling, but who knows how this will go down!!

Take a portable DVD player..

dandelionclock30

If people are really that intolerant then they need to charter their own plane.
Other people are annoying its a fact of life really.
I dont like the general lack of room and the boredom so I dont fly very much.
Theres nothing you can do to stop little kids crying and acting up, its what they do.Theres always the options of first and buisness class. If you fly ecomony then thats what you get and you have to suck it up.

dandelionclock30

LadyL2013 wrote: »

Tomton - I was more joking about the naughty step!

Polly - no I would not expect Economy passengers to put up with them either. I would expect for cabin crew to give a warning for them to correct their behaviour and if they continue they face a fine or similar.

Cabin crew have to put up with a lot of unacceptable behaviour that because of the nature of the situation has to be 'tolerated' and as such they should have more powers to discipline bad passengers. Currently your behaviour has to be dangerous for airlines to take any action against you, in my opinion bad behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud before it escalates.

FWIW, I'm not talking about minor things, but things such as drunken behaviour, shouting, making an unacceptable mess etc. My cousin is cabin crew and some of the stuff she tells us about would have people chucked out of places or fined for excessive littering.

Cabin crew can be terribly rude themselves for no reason as well.

peter_the_piper

Now everyone on here has me worried. My first long distance flight to Thailand in Feb. At least its out of school holidays.