Time for adult only flights

hollydays

LadyL2013 wrote: »

I actually would be all for airlines being able to impose fines on disruptive behaviour or removal from first class if seating allows, whoever that person may be.

Granted snoring is harder to control. Having said that when we flew back from NYC, there was a man snoring VERY loudly and shouting in his sleep and the cabin crew did gently wake him under the guise of 'needing to see his seatbelt' after a few people were becoming unsettled by the shouting.

I can't get my head around what you seem to be saying here.

its almost you are saying people in first class are superior to the second class passengers.Any transgression from manners dictated by Debretts should be cast out into the wilderness that is apparently second class, as a punishment?All animals are equal but some are more equal than others?!!

Disruptive passengers will face fines- when arrested and taken off the plane, but not two year olds , so I've heard.
March them to a cashpoint..?!!

SevenOfNine

If you have no tolerance of noisy children on a flight, take some earplugs with you 'just in case'. Job done!

Pollycat

hollydays wrote: »

I can't get my head around what you seem to be saying here.

its almost you are saying people in first class are superior to the second class passengers.Any transgression from manners dictated by Debretts should be cast out into the wilderness that is apparently second class, as a punishment?All animals are equal but some are more equal than others?!!

Disruptive passengers will face fines- when arrested and taken off the plane, but not two year olds , so I've heard.
March them to a cashpoint..?!!

I agree.

"I've paid more money than you so I don't want to be disturbed by anyone who I consider disruptive".

WOW! Really?

Airline travel is a 'means to an end'. It gets you from A to B.

If you wish to pay more for comfort, extra legroom/flat bed, free drinks or whatever you do get, you need to understand that it certainly doesn't mean you get to choose the passengers who travel with you.

So many people with an over-inflated sense of entitlement.

bagpuss38

I can't believe we have such snobby, judgemental and selfish people on this lovely forum.

Everyone has a story, women travels alone with child on plane, :eek: surely she is a chav single parent who can't control her kids. Sucking the state dry!

Or she is simply a mum taking a well earned break, dealing with a small child in a confined spaced.
Maybe she should have dumped the child with someone and sauntered off on holiday. Then she could be accused of swanning of of a holiday and abandoning her child!

I'm sure given the choice any parent wouldn't want their child crying or misbehaving anywhere.
But then kids have a habit of doing things you least want!
It's a short period of time out of your life and sometimes things are unavoidable.
Drugging a child is horrendous:(

marvin

bagpuss38 wrote: »

Maybe she should have dumped the child with someone and sauntered off on holiday. Then she could be accused of swanning of of a holiday and abandoning her child!
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Maybe she should have realised hat having children involves some sacrifice and one of these may have been not taking foreign holidays whilst her child is too young to understand the process.

It is about doing what is right as a whole and ruining someone else's space is just wrong in any ones book be it loud music, loud TV, loud arguing neighbours, swearing shouty builders or a screaming child.

I would not have taken a child into an environment where I could not have got out if I needed to, I had respect for others and I had a disabled child who sometimes liked to scream loudly just for the fun of it. It seems though these days the consideration is one sided and we should all put up with the inconveniences of incompetent/lazy parents.

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Cyberman60 wrote: »

The irony in your answer is that limiting certain flights to adults only would actually GAIN trade for the airline that took the plunge !! :rotfl:

You're making the mistaken assumption that everyone is like you.

LadyL2013

Holly and Polly,

I feel I need to clarify what I am saying as I don't think I'm wording it very well.

1) I think all passengers in all classes should be expected to hold themselves to a certain standard of behaviour and if they breach this they should be fined in some way. I cannot for the life of me fathom why people suddenly lose all manners and respect when on an aircraft.

2) I do not think a crying child or their parent should be fined. They are a child afterall. However, I don't think it's acceptable for parents to make no effort to make sure their child's behaviour is kept in check. By this I don't mean crying, I mean stuff like kicking seats, running around the plane and smacking you on the head (the last actually happened to me!).

3) I think that all passengers in all classes should be treated with the same amount of respect.

4) If you pay to fly first class, you are paying for a better level of service, comfort etc. That is what it is, that is what you're paying for. As a result I feel that comfort should not be compromised be that by a noisy child or adult. I have never flown First Class so I am not coming from a sense of entitlement, but I do accept that you should get what you pay for. You wouldn't pay extra to go to a posh hotel with lots of extras and then have that ruined by disruptive guests or be expected to be tolerated yourself if you are disruptive.

5) I don't have a problem with children flying, I don't have a problem if they cry and the parents are doing all they can to soothe them. I do think though that long haul flights/ red eye flights are perhaps not the best thing for babies, they might be great, but they also might not be. I do understand that for some they may not have a choice.

6) Holly - he was just shouting random words, hey didn't seem to make much sense!

tomtontom

Out of interest LadyL, where would you move the disruptive first class passengers to?

hollydays

"he was just shouting random words, they didn't seem to make much sense!"

That's not unsettling, think of the entertainment value!

Pollycat

I got exactly what you were saying before you felt you needed to clarify.

LadyL2013 wrote: »

Holly and Polly,

I feel I need to clarify what I am saying as I don't think I'm wording it very well.

1) I think all passengers in all classes should be expected to hold themselves to a certain standard of behaviour and if they breach this they should be fined in some way. I cannot for the life of me fathom why people suddenly lose all manners and respect when on an aircraft.

2) I do not think a crying child or their parent should be fined. They are a child afterall. However, I don't think it's acceptable for parents to make no effort to make sure their child's behaviour is kept in check. By this I don't mean crying, I mean stuff like kicking seats, running around the plane and smacking you on the head (the last actually happened to me!).

3) I think that all passengers in all classes should be treated with the same amount of respect.

4) If you pay to fly first class, you are paying for a better level of service, comfort etc. That is what it is, that is what you're paying for. As a result I feel that comfort should not be compromised be that by a noisy child or adult. I have never flown First Class so I am not coming from a sense of entitlement, but I do accept that you should get what you pay for. You wouldn't pay extra to go to a posh hotel with lots of extras and then have that ruined by disruptive guests or be expected to be tolerated yourself if you are disruptive.

5) I don't have a problem with children flying, I don't have a problem if they cry and the parents are doing all they can to soothe them. I do think though that long haul flights/ red eye flights are perhaps not the best thing for babies, they might be great, but they also might not be. I do understand that for some they may not have a choice.

6) Holly - he was just shouting random words, hey didn't seem to make much sense!

I wouldn't mind airlines taking firmer action on disruptive passengers.

You seem to feel that the more you pay or the more up-class establishment you visit, you should get better service and no 'riff-raff'.
Having money doesn't give people 'class'.