Time for adult only flights

Andypandyboy

Pollycat wrote: »

show a little tolerance to your fellow passengers, regardless of age.

That is far too radical;)

TBeckett100

Not all kids are bad
We take our 5 year old everywhere and she has been good as gold, even longhaul

We were worried about taking her to Maldives last year because it's a honeymoon destination but the other holiday makers, mostly Chinese treated her like a superstar. In fact they all had her appear on their facetimes back home

We tend for family destinations to fly with national airlines rather than holiday carriers. However the flight back from Canada in the new year was interesting, we flew back in first and the chap in the bed next to Her was aghast that a child was in his dept.

I slept the whole flight home but the wife says our daughter did the same.

If you pick a more expensive airline, you can weed out the chavs generally

Cyberman60

pelirocco wrote: »

But would you want to pay the extra this will cost you , after all limiting your market increases the chances of not selling all the seats , basic economics

Did you complain about all the foreign food while you were there too ?

The irony in your answer is that limiting certain flights to adults only would actually GAIN trade for the airline that took the plunge !! :rotfl:

Cyberman60

Pollycat wrote: »

But what will happen if those childfree adults can't actually travel on a Tuesday at 6am (or whatever time/date the flight operates)?

The plane will operate half-full, making a loss so at best any such trial would be short-lived.

I agree that childfree people aren't constrained by school holidays but they are almost certainly constrained by other factors, such as work holiday rules that only allow a certain number of people off at the same time.

Here's an alternative suggestion:
show a little tolerance to your fellow passengers, regardless of age.

All passengers near to the screaming girl on my flight showed enormous tolerance and did not complain much at all, and I for one ended up with an enormous headache that lasted for hours after disembarking. The girl literally screamed at the top of her voice throughout the flight, and I would imagine it was attention-seeking more than anything from a spoilt brat. But not one angry word from her parents to her or apology to other passengers at all !! :mad:

Every time the crew attempted to get her to wear a seatbelt it was even worse, if that was possible :mad: , and they never did get her to wear one (in 2 take offs and 2 landings !!!

LadyL2013

I think that is an unfair assumption to make about the parent. You will never get all adult flights, it just isn't economical, but I think adult only sections would work well and indeed some airlines are trialling this.

What does baffle me though is why you would take your child on a red eye, when other day time flights are available. We got the red eye home from Rhodes last month, there were several flights throughout the day. There were about 6 kids who were obviously knackered and bored and screamed throughout the entire flight. I mean ear piercing screaming. No one could sleep as a result and there were a lot of very unhappy passengers.

I do think though that children below a certain age should be banned from first class. If you have paid an extortionate amount for your seat, your comfort should not be compromised by a crying child.

Personally, when I have children I won't be taking them on long haul flights until they are of an age where they can be reasoned with and be kept entertained. It's not fair on them, me and above all, other passengers.

I should add that, I appreciate how hard it can be for parents and I know that many try their best to keep their children entertained and quiet. I am mainly aiming my post at parents who have really not thought about the practicalities of flying and or make no effort to soothe or entertain their child. I don't begrudge children flying, but I do think that some parents need to ask themselves if it's fair on their child to take them on a plane if they suspect they cannot control them.

Pollycat

Cyberman60 wrote: »

All passengers near to the screaming girl on my flight showed enormous tolerance and did not complain much at all, and I for one ended up with an enormous headache that lasted for hours after disembarking. The girl literally screamed at the top of her voice throughout the flight, and I would imagine it was attention-seeking more than anything from a spoilt brat. But not one angry word from her parents to her or apology to other passengers at all !! :mad:

Every time the crew attempted to get her to wear a seatbelt it was even worse, if that was possible :mad: , and they never did get her to wear one (in 2 take offs and 2 landings !!!

How can you say:

I would imagine it was attention-seeking more than anything from a spoilt brat.

You have no idea what the matter was with the little girl.
Do you?
She may have been in real pain from earache caused by pressure.
But no. You 'imagine' she was a 'spoilt brat'.
You appear as judgemental as the OP.

Personally, I think the parents should have acknowledged to the passengers around them that their daughter was making things uncomfortable for them but then again, you can't insist you board a plane with people who have manners.

They clearly hadn't prepared their child for the experience of travelling in a plane. e.g. "it's a bit like travelling in a car and you have to wear your seatbelt".

Pollycat

LadyL2013 wrote: »

I think that is an unfair assumption to make about the parent. You will never get all adult flights, it just isn't economical, but I think adult only sections would work well and indeed some airlines are trialling this.

What does baffle me though is why you would take your child on a red eye, when other day time flights are available. We got the red eye home from Rhodes last month, there were several flights throughout the day. There were about 6 kids who were obviously knackered and bored and screamed throughout the entire flight. I mean ear piercing screaming. No one could sleep as a result and there were a lot of very unhappy passengers.

I do think though that children below a certain age should be banned from first class. If you have paid an extortionate amount for your seat, your comfort should not be compromised by a crying child.

Personally, when I have children I won't be taking them on long haul flights until they are of an age where they can be reasoned with and be kept entertained. It's not fair on them, me and above all, other passengers.

And do you also think people who snore loudly should also be banned from first class? :rotfl:

hollydays

Cyberman60 wrote: »

I agree with Adult Only flights after a horrendous flight I had in January, very similar to OP's experience, but with an older child, about 7 and parents unable or unwilling to control her. It really was the worst flight I've had out of maybe 200. :mad:

The likelihood is that child had some kind of learning difficulties

LadyL2013

Pollycat wrote: »

And do you also think people who snore loudly should also be banned from first class? :rotfl:

I actually would be all for airlines being able to impose fines on disruptive behaviour or removal from first class if seating allows, whoever that person may be.

Granted snoring is harder to control. Having said that when we flew back from NYC, there was a man snoring VERY loudly and shouting in his sleep and the cabin crew did gently wake him under the guise of 'needing to see his seatbelt' after a few people were becoming unsettled by the shouting.

hollydays

LadyL2013 wrote: »

I actually would be all for airlines being able to impose fines on disruptive behaviour or removal from first class if seating allows, whoever that person may be.

Granted snoring is harder to control. Having said that when we flew back from NYC, there was a man snoring VERY loudly and shouting in his sleep and the cabin crew did gently wake him under the guise of 'needing to see his seatbelt' after a few people were becoming unsettled by the shouting.

.. Ooo.. Why what was he shouting..?:D