MSE News: Disability and carer's allowance claimaints to suffer as inflation falls

schrodie

wildwestfan wrote: »

When everyone claiming DLA can show that the cash they receive is exclusively used for costs associated with their claimed disability then you can question the use of the WFA by those who receive it.

But not the other way round eh; when millionaire or rich pensioners still get the WFA whilst supping Sangria in their Spanish villas during the UK Winters
:rotfl::rotfl:

GAL

JS477

wildwestfan wrote: »

I find it strange that those who receive large sums of money each week in DLA are so envious of the paltry £2 a week pensioners get once a year as WFA.

Given that DLA payments can vary from £21.55 to £138.05 per week that as per usual is a rather sweeping statement.

wildwestfan wrote: »

The complaining about it only being for pensioners always starts around this time of year.

Unlike those who bang and drone on ad nauseam about disabled people getting DLA all year round.

wildwestfan

JS477 wrote: »

Given that DLA payments can vary from £21.55 to £138.05 per week that as per usual is a rather sweeping statement.

Minimally then DLA is 10 times more than WFA. Maximum 69 times more than WFA.
Wonder if WFA has kept up with inflation?

nannytone_2

the WFA isnt paid to people because of disabikity though.
it is paid to ALL that have reached a qualifying age.
gettingg DLA is a tiny bit more difficult

pipkin71

belladonna13 wrote: »

or in a few cases starved to death.

Have there actually been cases where benefits claimants have starved to death? The cause of death was starvation?

Indie_Kid

pipkin71 wrote: »

Have there actually been cases where benefits claimants have starved to death? The cause of death was starvation?

I think the closest you will get to that (and my memory is hazy on these cases) is the ones whose benefits have been stopped and they couldn't get to a foodbank, etc. However, I don't think the cause was ever recorded. But you will get the claimants family say it's due to having benefits stopped, etc.

it is incredibly difficult to live with an impairment that is constantly changing. you adapt to the changes onlu for them to change again.

This is an issue I face. My sight is seriously affected by tiredness and stress. I've had eye tests where the vision in my right eye is 6/6. (or 20/20) Only to go back the next week and only be able to read 3 lines. But I have been told that my vision has stabilised, somehow.

I live with various medical problems which change day in day out and are impossible to predict and I don't think even the medical professionals involved are sure.

When everyone claiming DLA can show that the cash they receive is exclusively used for costs associated with their claimed disability then you can question the use of the WFA by those who receive it.

But how would they do this? Because what I claim is a genuine disability expense, some people will tell me it's not.

pipkin71

Indie_Kid wrote: »

I think the closest you will get to that (and my memory is hazy on these cases) is the ones whose benefits have been stopped and they couldn't get to a foodbank, etc. However, I don't think the cause was ever recorded. But you will get the claimants family say it's due to having benefits stopped, etc.

It's just the poster had said there were a few cases where people had starved to death and, tbh, I've never actually heard about anyone dying this way, due to benefits issues so wondered whether it was emotive rather than factual.

I will add that I have no idea if it is the case or not just that I had never heard of it so hopefully the poster will link or clarify

Edited to add: found this on google

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/28/man-starved-to-death-after-benefits-cut

nannytone_2

i have heard of 2 case, and to be fair, it was caused in the main by a mental health issue and a reluctance to ask for help.
so not directly due to a cut in disability benefits, but most definately contributed to.
but unless people actually ask for help, there is very little society can do.
the person involefs family were up in arms... but i had to question how they were helping their family member as they were the ones with the knowledge of how bad the situation was becoming

kpwll

This conversation reminds me of 'my dad is bigger than yours'.

People over retirement age can apply and be assessed for AA, which as far as I know is paid at the same rate as DLA. They are not eligible for the mobility payment as (rightly or wrongly) it is deemed that the older you get the less mobile you are. Therefore being a part of the aging process and not disability or ill-health. The people who are in receipt of HRM are those who would, under normal circumstances, be fully mobile without needing help, in whatever form that may be.
Each disability, visible or hidden, is/can be devastating to the person it affects, we all cope in different ways. Some are able to work, some can't. This does not mean that the needs aren't there.
Able-bodied people have good days and bad days, so do disabled. The problem is that the majority of disabled people's days are bad ones.

I get a bit fed up with the need to place the problems of society on certain sections eg DLA recipients, pensioners, baby-boomers etc. and begrudging any assistance they get.

Indie_Kid

kpwll wrote: »

This conversation reminds me of 'my dad is bigger than yours'.

People over retirement age can apply and be assessed for AA, which as far as I know is paid at the same rate as DLA.

There are two rates of AA and 3 rates of DLA care. The lower rate of AA is the same as mid rate DLA care.