MSE News: Disability and carer's allowance claimaints to suffer as inflation falls

VisforVendetta

As a newcomer to this forum I am absolutely shocked, sickened and disgusted by some of the ignorant, bigoted, malicious, mis-informed and pathetic comments that I have read here!!!
Would these ignorant people feel better if those who have health issues were given a lethal injection so they were no longer a drain on the economy and a drain on their own precious pennies?
How much better would our country be if that happened??
I have heard these pathetic comments and ill informed arguments before, but I did not expect to find them here, in a forum, that I believed was for the members to offer advice to the others!!

wildwestfan

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

I think reading past posts Indie that he seems to be upset that as he got mobility issues at 66 that he is ineligible for a motability vehicle.

Personally I would prefer to be able to walk for another 30 years and not have a "shiny new motability vehicle" (with hefty deposit paid for by wages due to needing a WAV)

As neither of us is allowed to drive then quite frankly a car would be fairly useless to us. What I was saying was that it is not age that so impairs my mobility but rheumatoid arthritis. Which incidentally I was diagnosed with whilst in my 40's. It still seems unfair to me that someone receiving mobility DLA keeps it after pension age but it is not possible to be a new applicant once 65 is reached.

My wife has a degenerative disease that is destroying her eyesight. Very similar to the disease nannytone has. However she is also turned 65 so I expect she will be thought to not want to leave the house so in no need of any help with mobility. She is also fit as a fiddle apart from her eyesight.

We both know exactly what disability is and how it affects life.

nannytone_2

i too think its unfair that there is no mobility componant past 65 ( new claims(
whilst i accept that older people can expect to be less mobile as part of the aging process...
87 isnt old and hasnt been old for many years.
saying that ...wwf seems to think that because they cant get someoething, then they would prefer that others cant have it either.
what he is also failing to take into consideration is that , whilst he has some limitations, as has his wife ...
the fact that they live together and can support each other emotionally if not physically, cannot be over estimated.
living alone with a limiting disability is isolating and incredibly frustrating.
instead of comparing your wifes condition to mine ... just spare a thought as to how she would cope living alone, without family close by.

wildwestfan

nannytone wrote: »

instead of comparing your wifes condition to mine ... just spare a thought as to how she would cope living alone, without family close by.

So because we have stayed married and living together my wife's loss of sight is nothing like as bad as yours. Is that honestly what you are saying? I am sure she will be consoled by that.

you are in effect saying 'well she is only blind and she does have a husband". You take great offence at anyone saying you are only blind but are happy to say it to someone else.

nannytone_2

that isnt what i am saying at all¬
i am saying, your wife is losing her sight ... how well would she cope totally alone now and when she loses it all?
yet you think that disability benefits are over generous.
think of all the things she can do with your help and then imagine of she needed to pay for someone else to do the miltitude of supposedly insignificant things everyday

wildwestfan

nannytone wrote: »

that isnt what i am saying at all¬
i am saying, your wife is losing her sight ... how well would she cope totally alone now and when she loses it all?
yet you think that disability benefits are over generous.
think of all the things she can do with your help and then imagine of she needed to pay for someone else to do the miltitude of supposedly insignificant things everyday

Point is she won't get any disability benefits will she? she will still get her £68 a week SRP and perhaps AA. What else? Don't suppose she will get a PA to run her bath and tell her which bottle is shampoo and which is conditioner.

nannytone_2

if she didnt have you living with her ... and she lived in my authority ( which is well known fpr its rxtremely good social care) then yes she probably would get the same as i get¬
mybe not as many hours, because hours a tapered for people over retirement age as it seems to be expected that they wont be as active as they were in their 40's and 50's.
am o to blame for foing vlind at a relatively young age rather than waiting until i was old?
you are blaming the recipients of the benefits rather than condemning the system for failing to recognise yours and your wifes needs.
yjay isnt fair and yet i would be the first to back any attempt you make to change the system.
but you dont want to do that. you just want to b`tch and moan that other people get what you arent getting

wildwestfan

nannytone wrote: »

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but you dont want to do that. you just want to b`tch and moan that other people get what you arent getting

Not true at all. We both accept that things are what they are and some people benefit greatly from never having saved or made provision for themselves. We have made as much provision as we could and are spending it whereas others get services free.

No my '!!!!!' is that you complain bitterly about people saying you are 'only blind' when you have benefits and services heaped on you to help you cope. Other people do not and have to manage as best they can.

fed_up_and_stressed

wildwestfan wrote: »

Point is she won't get any disability benefits will she? she will still get her £68 a week SRP and perhaps AA. What else? Don't suppose she will get a PA to run her bath and tell her which bottle is shampoo and which is conditioner.

DLA / PIP wouldn't pay for many hours for a Personal Assistant wildwestfan ! More likely payments for a PA would be through direct payments. Again these are not "luxuries" but assisting people to do day to day activities.

You seem to be making lots of assumptions about "benefits" such as this so called free transport to hospital for all disabled people and free optical payments for all disabled people (don't exist) but have little evidence to back up your claims.

You previously said you have paid into the system so belief you are entitled to what you receive ...well ditto I have paid into te system and have been ASSESSED as has everyone on DLA /PIP as having a need.

Is this the same as the winter fuel allowance you and other pensioners get regardless of need .. Yet disabled people don't get this ?? Hmmm.

fed_up_and_stressed

wildwestfan wrote: »

Not true at all. We both accept that things are what they are and some people benefit greatly from never having saved or made provision for themselves. We have made as much provision as we could and are spending it whereas others get services free.

No my '!!!!!' is that you complain bitterly about people saying you are 'only blind' when you have benefits and services heaped on you to help you cope. Other people do not and have to manage as best they can.

So you are saying that it is ok to make disparaging and hurtful comments based on someones disability status because the person receives services to help them with day to day activiities ...... Absurd !