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lostinrates wrote: »It's been horrid here. We had to go to farm supplies this morning and the wind was biting through our clothes. Decided it was definitely an indoors day today after that.
I'm pretty chuffed. I managed to eat chicken and veg on Friday, some seafood noodles yesterday, and fruit ( something I often find really hard and really miss today....quite a few physalis, a rambutan, half an apple....) and reckon I'm going to go for supper too. ( planned smoked salmon and a light soufle, maybe a little cheese and chives, got new chives sprouting, and leeks. ....) No silly body behaviour all weekend.
kept pills and supplements in.
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Glad to hear that.lostinrates wrote: »I've spent nothing on mid week groceries for a few weeks I think. Cannot go on like this really. Last week I are three corn cakes ( like rice cakes) and a yogurt and tried a cream cracker. Problem is its self fulfilling, longer it don't keep food in, harder it is to keep food in.
Sadly, I am NOT losing weight. :mad: This food this weekend has seen me swell like a balloon, :wall::wall::wall:
but if I keep food in it should even out.
Could somebody who understands more biology than I do explain how that works, please? As a physicist I don't get how you can be eating so little, using up energy (even just for breathing and keeping your circulation/digestion/etc going let alone dealing with all your animals) and nevertheless putting on weight. I am vaguely aware that the biology is a lot more complicated than the physics, but clueless beyond that point - gave up bio when I picked my O-level choices, and haven't learnt anything about metabolism and digestion and so on since then. Thanks.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
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Glad to hear that.
Could somebody who understands more biology than I do explain how that works, please? As a physicist I don't get how you can be eating so little, using up energy (even just for breathing and keeping your circulation/digestion/etc going let alone dealing with all your animals) and nevertheless putting on weight. I am vaguely aware that the biology is a lot more complicated than the physics, but clueless beyond that point - gave up bio when I picked my O-level choices, and haven't learnt anything about metabolism and digestion and so on since then. Thanks.
It is weird isn't it - PN and Sue also seems to survive on about 1000 calories a day whereas I have 2.5-3k, do half as much exercise as either of them and manage not too put on too much weight. Do you think some people just fail to metabolise half the claories they eat at all?I think....0 -
I know in the US they were trying to develop a pill that would raise your body temperature by about a degree and thereby burn up your body fat.
Supposedly pigeons (5 degrees warmer than us) need a certain minimum % of body fat when they go to sleep or they won't get up in the morning.There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
It is weird isn't it - PN and Sue also seems to survive on about 1000 calories a day whereas I have 2.5-3k, do half as much exercise as either of them and manage not too put on too much weight. Do you think some people just fail to metabolise half the claories they eat at all?
I don't think that genes related to failing to metabolise half the calories could possibly have survived.
However, your basal metabolic rate is around 1700 calories. Add in walking to/from the station, walking around work, strap hanging, maybe quite a bit of stress and nervousness, and you could well use up the amount you consume.
LIR may well have retained a lot of water. Otherwise, as Lydia says, the maths does not add up.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Decided today I definitely cannot wait till forty for first facelift. There is an unfortunate amount to hoist up.
Good heavens! You are beautiful as you are!No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
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Glad to hear that.
Could somebody who understands more biology than I do explain how that works, please? As a physicist I don't get how you can be eating so little, using up energy (even just for breathing and keeping your circulation/digestion/etc going let alone dealing with all your animals) and nevertheless putting on weight. I am vaguely aware that the biology is a lot more complicated than the physics, but clueless beyond that point - gave up bio when I picked my O-level choices, and haven't learnt anything about metabolism and digestion and so on since then. Thanks.
I'm like a super efficient vehicle. My temperature runs low and my body shuts down into sleep.
Essentially all the different hormone issues are telling my body are telling each other I am on some kind of desert island so they have switched on to 'emergency function' ( this was a long time ago) when they get something they can absorb ( like this weekend ) they lay it all down with super efficiency yet still fail to release much as energy.
The less I eat the less functionality different bits of me get. The body will slowly shut down what isn't essential in order, but because of the hormone and neauro homone issues, when food comes it doesn't release it but rather just says.....hey, let's store this.
When I went on a 'vlcd' of just under five hundred calories a day, it was gret four a month, and then that's what my body adjusted to. Same with fasting, its now my maintaining ( and I don't intermittant fast like normal people do
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Its the same thing...calories in calories out, at some point,.....but the point it might get to seems to be a point that we haven't found yet and might cause me very serious issues. I've never eaten normally post pubescently ( something that we probably now think is the main indicator of my pcos, as I had only that and one other symptom before ill health, ) and now I have other compounding hormones joining in and neuroendocrine feedback too, its a problem. That's what the surgery I am wanting is hopefully going to disrupt
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It is weird isn't it - PN and Sue also seems to survive on about 1000 calories a day whereas I have 2.5-3k, do half as much exercise as either of them and manage not too put on too much weight. Do you think some people just fail to metabolise half the claories they eat at all?
Other factor, I didn't know till last year? Two years ago. Contrary to what I was taught at undergrad level BMR DROPS not raises over a certain BMI, and its not necessarily that high a BMI. Its why obese people often really won't lose weight without intervention
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This confused me a great deal because its the absolute opposite of what one is taught. The mantra of "it drops off fat people quicker because they are carrying more weight so exercise means more" etc, but actually ' the maths doesn't add up when you look at the bio chem often. Bio chem with malfunction is extremely complicated equation and sadly for me my maths really does add up. One of the reasons I wasn't too fussed when an alternative diet to food was suggested summer before last was it would be a bloody relief to stop worrying about it. I get food, I know it, I understand it, I KNOW what I eat, over estimate it when I count it, have had tests like a lab rat. My maths is working, my bio chem is Fooked. 0 -
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However, your basal metabolic rate is around 1700 calories. Add in walking to/from the station, walking around work, strap hanging, maybe quite a bit of stress and nervousness, and you could well use up the amount you consume.
My wife drops me within 50m of the train, I walk 150m and down 2 escalators at the tube station, up 20 steps and 50m to my office. Sit down all day except for trips to the water machine and bathroom. Reverse journey is similar except for walking up 2 escalators. Walk round the supermarket once at the weekend.....must be a lot of nervous energy....I think....0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Thank you. I'll be better after lots of intervention
I agree with GDB on this one. Your face looks fine to me - a lot younger and smoother than mine - as it should because you're younger than me.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0
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