After School Trouble

GetOut

chiefgoobster wrote: »

Looking at it from another angle ....
How was the fruit laid out ? .... was it in a bowl , or spaced out
on the table ? .....If the latter , did the teacher really think your child would go round spitting on lots of different laid out fruit ?

It was spaced out on a large tray so I guess it's a yes

GetOut

An update, spoke to her this morning.

She was very defensive and blamed it all on my son.
At first she said he just spat, then she said he spat fruit that was already in his mouth. When I asked her which one is exactly what happened, she said she wasn't sure.

She completely dismissed everything I said about how this was handled and just kept going back to the spitting bit. She said loads of kids do it (really?) and they need telling off. I couldn't carry on repeating myself without getting through at all so I'll be dropping a letter to our head this afternoon requesting an urgent meet up and discussion.

I want to see her CRB, qualifications and recommendations/previous experience. She does not seem fit to look after kids as her approach is very passive aggressive.

mum2one

If it was me as you now have spoken to the person concerned her attitude and explanation to the situation sounds unreasonable, my next step would be a meeting with the headmaster to sort this out.

It may well be that you need to go through the schools formal complaint system - at my daughters old school the hierarchy was deputy head, head, governers after that there was no option as schools are managed by the governers and local authority just pass the buck:
For your sons sake please don't let this drop xx

Buttonmoons

I would be RAGING if I walked in and see someone from my daughters afterschool club screaming at her like that - Even if he had spat on all the fruit (which sounds like he must of ran out of spit if so) it still doesn't warrent screeching at a young child like that. Blimey - I'd not want her working with my child.

sulphate

Her qualifications might be very minimum. I used to work in an after school club 5 years ago and had no relevant qualifications. I had previously volunteered in a primary school and was CRB checked but that was it, they didn't require anything else (although I notice now on their website it states that all staff are experienced and/or qualified in child care so things might have changed). The club I was at wasn't tied to a school though, as yours is they might be more stringent.

NicolaB_2

GetOut wrote: »

An update, spoke to her this morning.

She was very defensive and blamed it all on my son.
At first she said he just spat, then she said he spat fruit that was already in his mouth. When I asked her which one is exactly what happened, she said she wasn't sure.

She completely dismissed everything I said about how this was handled and just kept going back to the spitting bit. She said loads of kids do it (really?) and they need telling off. I couldn't carry on repeating myself without getting through at all so I'll be dropping a letter to our head this afternoon requesting an urgent meet up and discussion.

I want to see her CRB, qualifications and recommendations/previous experience. She does not seem fit to look after kids as her approach is very passive aggressive.

I'm a school governor and I absolutely agree that you should raise this with the Headteacher, as it does sound like it was handled very badly. However, I don't think you will have a right to see her CRB/qualifications etc as that is her personal information and will be covered by Data Protection.

tooldle

Was this cut fruit?
I've seen similar happen when a child sneezed in close proximity to a tray of jam tarts. Doesn't excuse the reaction though.

supersaver2

NicolaB wrote: »

I'm a school governor and I absolutely agree that you should raise this with the Headteacher, as it does sound like it was handled very badly. However, I don't think you will have a right to see her CRB/qualifications etc as that is her personal information and will be covered by Data Protection.

I was just about to add that you will not be able to look at her personal information. If you don't feel comfortable leaving your child in her care you need to withdraw him from after after-school club and write down your complaint to the Head teacher in the first instance.

Also just to add it is no longer a CRB check but a DBS check.

rpc

NicolaB wrote: »

However, I don't think you will have a right to see her CRB/qualifications etc as that is her personal information and will be covered by Data Protection.

The School would be committing an offence if they made disclosure information available to a third party. The employer may not even have a copy - under the new regime in E&W only the applicant is sent a copy. The employee could choose to show it to people, but that's their choice.

The DBS certificate isn't really much use for things like this anyway. Poor conduct, false accusations and disciplinary issues (provided there is no duty to refer) aren't exactly the sort of information you find on the cert.

Her qualifications are also personal information under the DPA and I wouldn't expect the school to necessarily divulge those.

The main point is her conduct and that doesn't have anything to do with her qualifications or other bits of paper. Focus on the alleged misconduct and don't draw in extraneous arguments.

Pollycat

GetOut wrote: »

Yes, she is.

Don't know if there's anything there at all. I believe it's she herself who is having personal issues or just a complete lack of understanding on how to deal with kids

Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but as her daughter is in the same class as your child, it could be that she is 'telling tales out of school' to her Mum.

Whatever - you do need to get to the bottom of this and ensure that whoever is looking after your (and other people's) children is qualified,vetted and up to the job.