MSE News: Green Deal fund to reopen with an extra £100m

Smiley_Dan

That is incorrect. My EPC rightly mentions CWI as a recommended measure. However, I could not apply for it under GDHIF and was advised I wouldn't be able to under CERO too because it would be less than 50% of the external face.

EDIT: I misremembered; CERO should cover this but is not available for other reasons.

And that's not to mention the arbitrary "meta" requirements, e.g. for the GDHIF you have to apply for exactly two measures.

captainhindsight_2

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

That is incorrect. My EPC rightly mentions CWI as a recommended measure. However, I could not apply for it under GDHIF and was advised I wouldn't be able to under CERO too because it would be less than 50% of the external face.

And that's not to mention the arbitrary "meta" requirements, e.g. for the GDHIF you have to apply for exactly two measures.

That's incorrect you would be able to claim under cero, even if it was only 1% of your external wall you could claim under cero as the installer gets paid for how many units of energy are saved and they can do as little or as much as you want but obviously the less they do the less they get paid.

For GDHIF, it had to be 50% of that type of wall. So say cavity walls made up 20% of your total external walls. You would only have to insulate half of that so 10% of the external wall to get one measure for the GDHIF.

I know this because my company has installed exactly that under the GDHIF. And under cero we have installed as little as 25% of external wall because that is what the customer wanted.

We also installed solid wall insulation where the solid walls was only 5% of the total external walls but then insulated 100% of the solid walls and this still qualified for upto £6k under the GDHIF.

Smiley_Dan

Yes, you're right about CERO, sorry, I misremembered.

I don't really understand your point about GDHIF. Are you saying the fund should allocate money for 50% of the cost no matter how much is insulated? That is definitely not what I was advised when I rang the help line.

We do actually have one section of gable wall that is solid but doubt any installer would be interested in such a small job.

captainhindsight_2

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

Yes, you're right about CERO, sorry, I misremembered.

I don't really understand your point about GDHIF. Are you saying the fund should allocate money for 50% of the cost no matter how much is insulated? That is definitely not what I was advised when I rang the help line.

We do actually have one section of gable wall that is solid but doubt any installer would be interested in such a small job.

're the insulation with gdhif a minimum of 50% of that type of wall has to be insulated to qualify for the cash back.

My point is say solid walls are less that 50% of the external walls of your property, say 30%. To quality for the solid wall insulation cash back only 50% of that solid wall has to be insulated but is only 15% of all external walls but still qualifies.

Does that make sence.... lol.

Smiley_Dan

It does make sense, but it certainly isn't what was stated to me on the helpline.

captainhindsight_2

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

It does make sense, but it certainly isn't what was stated to me on the helpline.

The people on the help line don't understand the scheme fully, they are there to answer really simple questions. If you ask them about technical details they are not that switched on.

I can confidently say the above does qualify, because I have installed it and the cashback has been paid out.

In regards to your job being too small, some one should do it you will prob just end up paying more per sq m.

Smiley_Dan

Thanks.

Unfortunately I couldn't do it anyway, because none of the remaining measures are applicable.

cevans65

Hi there, really confused about all this!

I had a door step call from the mark group but they had my EPG report. I have recently bought the property 4 months ago so obviously the seller had an EPG done and this is what he had. In it it obviously recommends improvements and the main one being cavity wall.

What is confusing is that he said as the EPG was less than a yr he didn't need to do any further assessment, so thus no £99+ cost which is great which peeps go on about, but also he said the cavity wall was free and they would sort the funding.


He wanted to arrange an appointment to go through in detail as I was on way out but he said it was 100%free because of gov funding etc and we didn't need to do anything. Can this really be so true and simple?


Here obviously talks about vouchers, paying upfront and claiming back, loan paid off via your energy bill etc and as said he wanted to talk in detail but when I asked he said they sorted all and I didn't need to do anything?

captainhindsight_2

cevans65 wrote: »

Hi there, really confused about all this!

I had a door step call from the mark group but they had my EPG report. I have recently bought the property 4 months ago so obviously the seller had an EPG done and this is what he had. In it it obviously recommends improvements and the main one being cavity wall.

What is confusing is that he said as the EPG was less than a yr he didn't need to do any further assessment, so thus no £99+ cost which is great which peeps go on about, but also he said the cavity wall was free and they would sort the funding.


He wanted to arrange an appointment to go through in detail as I was on way out but he said it was 100%free because of gov funding etc and we didn't need to do anything. Can this really be so true and simple?


Here obviously talks about vouchers, paying upfront and claiming back, loan paid off via your energy bill etc and as said he wanted to talk in detail but when I asked he said they sorted all and I didn't need to do anything?

Yes it is true that scheme is the Eco part of the green deal, this thread is about the Cashback part of the green deal.

keiran

They say full details for GDHIF will be announced in November.....why so non-specific, and there's only 4 days left ( 29/30th are Sat/Sun)

Are people awaiting details before commissioning the assessment, in case the costs are reimbursed as per the last time, or are these refunded retrospectively anyway?

What is the position with regard to storage heaters, anyone?

Thanks in advance for comments