MSE News: Green Deal fund to reopen with an extra £100m

Smiley_Dan

captainhindsight wrote: »

The new methodology and thus software for EPCs comes out on 7th December.

Have the details for the methodology been released?

captainhindsight_2

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

Have the details for the methodology been released?

Yea they have, if you Google RdSAP 9.92 there are a few sites detailing the changes that are being made.

Beki88

Hope someone can give me a bit of advice.
We have missed out on the grants before, I got advice in this thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/66472484#Comment_66472484
However I was shocked at what they were wanting to charge:
Approx 9500 for external wall insulation with 4000 grant so leaving me 5500 (that was an ECO)
I got a quote from a local business who wanted 5500 without the grant so both prices the same once the discount was taken into account.

Just wondering what I should do in terms of getting an assessment by another company as I don't think this one did an EPC just a quick look round didn't need to see any bills etc. I really don't want to miss out on the EWI again but I don't quite understand it all as everyone seems to have different rules or procedures. Thanks

Smiley_Dan

Just my advice: pay a little more to make sure you are the customer.

There are a number of stories where EWI done under these deals are tailored to Government requirements, not your own. What does that mean? It means cutting corners in detailing, using cheaper materials etc.

This is common with all insulation schemes. For example, CWI is now normally done with fibre, because it's cheaper than EPS bead. But the latter is the better product.

The thing with EWI is that to get the best out of it a really detailed job needs to be done. Air tightness is not for cowboys - every mm needs to be taped or sealed, the junctions with the windows need properly treating etc.

DemiDee

A neighbour on our road took advantage of the original Green Deal earlier this year and now has new double glazing throughout the house, as well as external insulation throughout the house, too. It looks good, and she says it has worked a treat, especially since these houses do not have cavities between the bricks and thus get very cold during winter time. I don't know how, but this set her back just £350 for thousands of pounds worth of work.

I am now wondering how we can apply for this second round and whether you have to have a particular set of circumstances (ie.all members of the household on benefits and/or zero savings). It all still sounds too good to be true to me, but then I look at my neighbour's house and see they've done a really good job, and for her - this scheme has been a real blessing.

lstar337

DemiDee wrote: »

A neighbour on our road took advantage of the original Green Deal earlier this year and now has new double glazing throughout the house, as well as external insulation throughout the house, too. It looks good, and she says it has worked a treat, especially since these houses do not have cavities between the bricks and thus get very cold during winter time. I don't know how, but this set her back just £350 for thousands of pounds worth of work.

I hope she is thanking the hard working people who paid for it all, since she barely paid a dime.

captainhindsight_2

lstar337 wrote: »

I hope she is thanking the hard working people who paid for it all, since she barely paid a dime.

Hmmmmmm.....

This is a money saving website, regardless of the politics of schemes like this. They exist and can save thousands so may as well grab the opportunities whilst you can

captainhindsight_2

DemiDee wrote: »

A neighbour on our road took advantage of the original Green Deal earlier this year and now has new double glazing throughout the house, as well as external insulation throughout the house, too. It looks good, and she says it has worked a treat, especially since these houses do not have cavities between the bricks and thus get very cold during winter time. I don't know how, but this set her back just £350 for thousands of pounds worth of work.

I am now wondering how we can apply for this second round and whether you have to have a particular set of circumstances (ie.all members of the household on benefits and/or zero savings). It all still sounds too good to be true to me, but then I look at my neighbour's house and see they've done a really good job, and for her - this scheme has been a real blessing.

The grants and the cash back schemes for solid wall insulation are not means tested.

The cashback for the Windows is not means tested

Non of the cash back schemes are means tested so you don't have to be on any benefits or below a certain income. The only requirement is that what you want shows on a green deal assessment or epc.

Smiley_Dan

Means testing (by which I assume you mean _financial_ means) is not the only means that are applied though. It also depends on the &age of the house covered in the materials to be replaced. For example, if you have a solid wall house extended with more recent cavity construction you may not be able to apply, depending on the amount of solid wall that exists.

Of course, that's completely wrong headed, but that's what you get with "gubmint" schemes.

Same thing for windows. The rules are seemingly arbitrary and not particularly well documented.

Hopefully @DemiDee's house is _completely_ solid wall and _completely_ single glazed, in which case she/he should qualify.

captainhindsight_2

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

Means testing (by which I assume you mean _financial_ means) is not the only means that are applied though. It also depends on the &age of the house covered in the materials to be replaced. For example, if you have a solid wall house extended with more recent cavity construction you may not be able to apply, depending on the amount of solid wall that exists.

As I said, if it is mentioned on the EPC you can get it and they are not financially means tested apart from hhcro part of Eco .