Caught on the phone while driving

Quentin

jeepjunkie wrote: »

Not quite...


If the OP wishes to post on a public forum a topic where they face prosecution for using a phone whilst driving then it is likely they will not like some answers they get... So if that's the case then why not speak to a lawyer? It's penny pinching that got them into the mess in the first place...


Besides, I don't think I said anything judgemental about his wife so suggest you take your moral high ground somewhere else.


Cheers

Strange rant:


1) You now accuse the OP (or his wife??) for penny pinching - where do you get that from?


2) No-one accused you of saying anything judgemental about his wife


There is a separate forum on MSE if you want to rant!

Strider590

Lot's of hearsay and ranting going on here.....

So here's a fact, 3 years ago I was hit by a BMW 1 Series whilst crossing the road at a junction, the offending gent was using his mobile phone and he cut across the lanes, catching me with the rear quarter panel.

My view on phone use is that the offender should lose their licence, BUT it needs to be more sensibly enforced, because I like many drivers keep my mobile phone between my legs to stop it flying about. I don't use the phone when driving, but I do run my OBDII scanner app to keep an eye on my true speed, fuel consumption and to log errors from the ECU to give me an early warning of future repairs. In this it is no different to a satnav.

As for the time frame, 2 weeks applies to offences like speeding, for offences like "driving without due care", the time frame is 6 months, BUT it's 6 months from the time that the offence has been processed.

poppasmurf_bewdley

DUTR wrote: »

6% by use of a mobile device and 11% by young drivers, so the other 80% must be caused by middle age sober drivers? :eek:

These are the figures for 'accidents' (The Oxford Dictionary defines an accident as "An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury."

Can you supply the 'at fault' incident statistics for the same time period, which I would think will be vastly different from the figures you supplied. For example, I understand that drink drivers are responsible for the vast majority of 'accidents' occurring between the hours of 10pm and 6am.

MikeR71

Thanks for discussing my circumstances and being self-righteous and judgmental. Carry on! I expected nothing less

OddballJamie

Strider590 wrote: »

Lot's of hearsay and ranting going on here.....

So here's a fact, 3 years ago I was hit by a BMW 1 Series whilst crossing the road at a junction, the offending gent was using his mobile phone and he cut across the lanes, catching me with the rear quarter panel.

My view on phone use is that the offender should lose their licence, BUT it needs to be more sensibly enforced, because I like many drivers keep my mobile phone between my legs to stop it flying about. I don't use the phone when driving, but I do run my OBDII scanner app to keep an eye on my true speed, fuel consumption and to log errors from the ECU to give me an early warning of future repairs. In this it is no different to a satnav.

As for the time frame, 2 weeks applies to offences like speeding, for offences like "driving without due care", the time frame is 6 months, BUT it's 6 months from the time that the offence has been processed.

Most people have their satnavs on the dash or windscreen.

Looking between your legs to see how fast you're going doesn't seem all that safe.

Buying a phone holder/mount would be a good idea. Proclip do a good range to fit Vectras with no holes needed, just clips between the gaps of your dash.

wba31

Strider590 wrote: »

Lot's of hearsay and ranting going on here.....

So here's a fact, 3 years ago I was hit by a BMW 1 Series whilst crossing the road at a junction, the offending gent was using his mobile phone and he cut across the lanes, catching me with the rear quarter panel.

My view on phone use is that the offender should lose their licence, BUT it needs to be more sensibly enforced, because I like many drivers keep my mobile phone between my legs to stop it flying about. I don't use the phone when driving, but I do run my OBDII scanner app to keep an eye on my true speed, fuel consumption and to log errors from the ECU to give me an early warning of future repairs. In this it is no different to a satnav.

As for the time frame, 2 weeks applies to offences like speeding, for offences like "driving without due care", the time frame is 6 months, BUT it's 6 months from the time that the offence has been processed.

Get a windscreen or dashmount then, because looking down at your gentleman region to check what your phone is saying probably takes your attention off the road more than if you are driving, looking out the windscreen but in a conversation with your phone pressed against your ear...

It amazes me how many people i see driving on the phone in cars i would presume have bluetooth capability...?

Im just glad im not popular enough for my phone to be needed on my drive to and from work, the most i get on my arrival at a destination is maybe 1 text message from my wife asking me something unimportant and a few emails advertising things i cannot afford to buy...

Bantex_2

Why do people not just get a cheap hands free kit. Costs about 20 quid from amazon and could save your driving license.

DUTR

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

These are the figures for 'accidents' (The Oxford Dictionary defines an accident as "An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury."

Can you supply the 'at fault' incident statistics for the same time period, which I would think will be vastly different from the figures you supplied. For example, I understand that drink drivers are responsible for the vast majority of 'accidents' occurring between the hours of 10pm and 6am.

No I cannot, I just had a search on google, however as mentioned the law is the law, but I don't beleive the moment you go 1mph over the limit or other minor things that the car will spin off the road and the driver kills or injures somebody.
I'm just not sure why there are so many telling off the OP's wife, they are both aware of the risks as most of us are.

DUTR

Bantex wrote: »

Why do people not just get a cheap hands free kit. Costs about 20 quid from amazon and could save your driving license.

It's not even so much that, it is just much more comfortable to use a handsfree device, although they won't often help with other types of phone use.

Car_54

sinizterguy wrote: »

Yes. Mobile phone use while driving should result in severe punishment.

Moving on from that point, the authorities also need to follow proper procedure and not randomly do stuff at whatever pace and process they feel like.

If there is a time limit to be followed, then it must be followed, or the penalty/punishment is invalid.

Since they gave her a verbal Notice of Intended Prosecution at the scene, they do not have to send the paperwork within 14 days if I remember correctly.

They have upto 6 months to file a case in court if needed, it need to be heard within 6 months.

Not quite. They have indeed 6 months to bring the case to court: when it will actually be heard depends on the court's timetable and could be some months later.