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New York Flights £172.49 return bargain!

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  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    jpsartre wrote: »
    Malkie is explicitly talking about error fares so if your fare is not an error his points clearly don't apply to you. So not sure what you are arguing about.

    malkie is specifically writing about my fare.
    If you have a cheap, non-error fare (in your opinion) then you have nothing to worry yourself about. However I do question what your actual point is. If you've a fare to the west coast for around £175 all in then I'd suggest your fare is an error. How much did you pay, what was the routing, and what was the mechanism of payment?
    Sorry, but I'm 100% correct, and the article I linked to proves that.
    There is every chance the airline will cancel your ticket, or offer you the opportunity to pay the difference to the correct fare.

    Booking direct with the airline makes no difference - they are not legally required to honour an error fare. This cancellation could occur up to check in on the day of your flight.

    Stick your head in the sand if you like.

    Even his copied link contradicts his statement "Booking direct with an airline makes no difference". BA clearly honoured flights booked via their website.
    And after I stated that I've never had a booking cancelled....
    How many were obvious error fares?

    Did you read the article I linked to? Just because you were fortunate in the past has no bearing on your current situation.

    The fact is that malkie76 has posted a link for flights out of the USA. Entirely irrelevant.

    Post a relevant link instead of a load of conjecture.

    My experiences are a fait accompli. Not a single cancellation or price revision.
    Whereas you lot are a 'talking shop'.

    Show me the money!
  • jpsartre
    jpsartre Posts: 4,093 Forumite
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    malkie is specifically writing about my fare.

    I didn't say he wasn't but his points are specifically about error fares. So again, if your fare is not an error, the points don't apply. Booking direct makes no difference to the fact that error fares may not be honoured. The risk may be less if you book direct but it's still there which is what I took malkie's point to be.
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    jpsartre wrote: »
    I didn't say he wasn't but his points are specifically about error fares. So again, if your fare is not an error, the points don't apply. Booking direct makes no difference to the fact that error fares may not be honoured. The risk may be less if you book direct but it's still there which is what I took malkie's point to be.

    My fare might or might not be an error. But....where are these error fares that have not been honoured? There is a lot of empty talk on this thread. But please show examples out of the UK or Europe.
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    edited 12 September 2014 at 10:51AM
    My fare might or might not be an error. But....where are these error fares that have not been honoured? There is a lot of empty talk on this thread. But please show examples out of the UK or Europe.

    As you are quite confident that there will be no issues with your fare, then why not leave it at that then once you have had a trouble free flight (although flying long haul in Y with changes certainly does not appeal to me and I would certainly find that scenario 'troublesome'), you can have the satisfaction of coming back on here confirming you were right and everyone else was wrong.
    There is a lot of empty talk on this thread.

    And the majority is coming from you!

    That is what happens when you jump into a discussion without reading it properly....like a dickydonki

    It seems you would rather persist in puerile behaviour and silly name calling which kind of indicates the type of person you are when (likely) far more experienced travellers are trying to offer advice on the potential pitfalls of these so called bargains. Ignore at your peril.


    That said - enjoy your trip.
  • malkie76
    malkie76 Posts: 6,170 Forumite
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    So once again. Please post relevant links showing fares out of the UK or Europe, that have not been honoured.

    I am perfectly willing to look at published evidence. But so far, nothing. Theory is all very well. But it does not trump my twenty years of flying experience, without a single price revision.

    In the previous nine months I have been to S E Asia, South America, North America, Spain, Portugal... tell me about the more experienced travellers again.

    The fact is that you are just writing without real experience. Whereas I am stating that I have not had even a single price revision in twenty years.

    Give me the facts about cancellations and price revisions of flights leaving UK and Europe and the facts of who here is a more experienced traveller than I.

    Otherwise, you have added no substance to this thread other than an empty argument.

    So far I have just seen the theorists patting each other on the back, but not presenting any relevant evidence at all. Not even from experience.
    Have any of the naysayers, such as yourself, suffered from a price revision flying out of UK or Europe?

    Please, no more Trolling. Just recount your experiences or post published evidence for flights out of UK and Europe.

    Your posts are rather aggressive and completely unwarranted as people are posting genuine, real life concerns. You come across as slightly immature to be honest which makes me question your overall credibility - why post so dramatically ?

    I've already linked to evidence of a european airline not honouring booked, ticketed error fares to destinations in europe. You've also reposted the information yourself, and commented that it was clearly an error fare.

    The fact that you have never been caught-out by an error fare does not mean that they do not happen, and has no bearing on the legal situation. BA have honoured error fares in the past, but they are under no legal obligation to do so. I'd rather not mislead people as to their rights if an error fare is not honoured, and neither should you.

    I've never been caught for speeding, so I guess no-one else ever has either ?

    Posters travel experiences or years flying, or flights per year are also irrelevant. None of us can reliably prove our flying history, and besides no amount of regular flying alters the legal position. Commenting that somehow you are the expert because you fly more does make you sound a tad childish (also coupled with the unnecessary name calling).

    I think you have been demonstrated to be incorrect on this occasion. I'm not sure why you continue to post?
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  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    As you are quite confident that there will be no issues with your fare, then why not leave it at that then once you have had a trouble free flight (although flying long haul in Y with changes certainly does not appeal to me and I would certainly find that scenario 'troublesome'), you can have the satisfaction of coming back on here confirming you were right and everyone else was wrong.

    This is a discussion about error fares. Didn't you notice? My experience of flying without problems withother low fares might have something to do with my stance



    And the majority is coming from you!

    No...mine comes from having taking advantage of very many of these fares. Can any of the naysayers(including yourself) say the same?




    It seems you would rather persist in puerile behaviour and silly name calling which kind of indicates the type of person you are when (likely) far more experienced travellers are trying to offer advice on the potential pitfalls of these so called bargains. Ignore at your peril.

    Who are these more experienced travellers? Name them. Are there any of this thread?


    That said - enjoy your trip.

    So once again. Please post relevant links showing fares out of the UK or Europe, that have not been honoured.

    I am perfectly willing to look at published evidence. But so far, nothing. Theory is all very well. But it does not trump my twenty years of flying experience, without a single price revision.

    In the previous nine months I have been to S E Asia, South America, North America, Spain, Portugal... tell me about the more experienced travellers again.

    The fact is that you are just writing without real experience. Whereas I am stating that I have not had even a single price revision in twenty years.

    Give me the facts about cancellations and price revisions of flights leaving UK and Europe and the facts of who here is a more experienced traveller than I.

    Otherwise, you have added no substance to this thread other than an empty argument.

    So far I have just seen the theorists patting each other on the back, but not presenting any relevant evidence at all. Not even from experience.
    Have any of the naysayers, such as yourself, suffered from a price revision flying out of UK or Europe?

    Please, no more Trolling. Just recount your experiences or post published evidence for flights out of UK and Europe.

    One thing that you might not know...is that I was posting flight deals here before most people had even heard of the flight deal websites(under a username that I don't use anymore). All honoured. ;)

    Example here

    Where is your experience?
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    malkie76 wrote: »
    I'm not sour, and I definitely would not fly anywhere long haul in economy no matter the cost saving.

    Error fares are routinely cancelled by airlines, even after they've been issued. I've provided evidence of that, so I am 100% correct - the fact that you have not had tickets cancelled is not at odds with my claim.

    If you have a cheap, non-error fare (in your opinion) then you have nothing to worry yourself about. However I do question what your actual point is. If you've a fare to the west coast for around £175 all in then I'd suggest your fare is an error. How much did you pay, what was the routing, and what was the mechanism of payment?

    You are coming across as sour. You used to be fun, maybe all those Tesco Clubcard upgrades went to your head? ;)
  • malkie76
    malkie76 Posts: 6,170 Forumite
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    Has anyone suggested that they have to honour the fare?

    I guess that's as close as we'll get to actually agreeing on the point being raised. In my opinion past precedence is irrelevant. No amount of evidence showing something has or has not happened in the past has no bearing on customers buying tickets today.
    I'm not getting into some peeing contest about who is the most experienced traveller.

    Really?
    I have been able to take advantage of more 'error' fares than likely anyone else on this forum.
    So my experience is certainly more useful than someone woth no experience and an ability to 'cut and paste'.

    That does come across slightly like a peeing contest.
    Legal team on standby
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    malkie76 wrote: »
    Your posts are rather aggressive and completely unwarranted as people are posting genuine, real life concerns. You come across as slightly immature to be honest which makes me question your overall credibility - why post so dramatically ?

    I've already linked to evidence of a european airline not honouring booked, ticketed error fares to destinations in europe. You've also reposted the information yourself, and commented that it was clearly an error fare.

    The fact that you have never been caught-out by an error fare does not mean that they do not happen, and has no bearing on the legal situation. BA have honoured error fares in the past, but they are under no legal obligation to do so. I'd rather not mislead people as to their rights if an error fare is not honoured, and neither should you.

    I've never been caught for speeding, so I guess no-one else ever has either ?

    Posters travel experiences or years flying, or flights per year are also irrelevant. None of us can reliably prove our flying history, and besides no amount of regular flying alters the legal position. Commenting that somehow you are the expert because you fly more does make you sound a tad childish (also coupled with the unnecessary name calling).

    I think you have been demonstrated to be incorrect on this occasion. I'm not sure why you continue to post?

    What fresh nonsense is this? :D

    What is a genuine real life concern? Is that more valid than a genuine real life experience?
    I did not ask for evidence of a European airline. I asked for evidence for a fare flying from the UK or Europe not being honoured.
    Perhaps the difference is too subtle for you to comprehend.
    The examples to which you linked are for flights leaving from the United States and therefore hardly relevant.

    Post a link to flights leaving from the UK and Europe. Which is what is relevant in this case. Is it not?

    Has anyone suggested that they have to honour the fare?
    I have simply stated that my flight price will not be revised.

    I'm not getting into some peeing contest about who is the most experienced traveller.
    But at the same time, I'm not going to allow someone to suggest that my experience is not valid.
    I can say that it is very likely that I have been able to take advantage of more 'error' fares than likely anyone else on this forum.
    So my experience is certainly more useful than someone woth no experience and an ability to 'cut and paste'. Wouldn't you agree? ;)

    As to name calling...take another look at your post.
  • So once again. Please post relevant links showing fares out of the UK or Europe, that have not been honoured.

    I am perfectly willing to look at published evidence. But so far, nothing. Theory is all very well. But it does not trump my twenty years of flying experience, without a single price revision.

    In the previous nine months I have been to S E Asia, South America, North America, Spain, Portugal... tell me about the more experienced travellers again.

    The fact is that you are just writing without real experience. Whereas I am stating that I have not had even a single price revision in twenty years.

    Give me the facts about cancellations and price revisions of flights leaving UK and Europe and the facts of who here is a more experienced traveller than I.

    Otherwise, you have added no substance to this thread other than an empty argument.

    So far I have just seen the theorists patting each other on the back, but not presenting any relevant evidence at all. Not even from experience.
    Have any of the naysayers, such as yourself, suffered from a price revision flying out of UK or Europe?

    Please, no more Trolling. Just recount your experiences or post published evidence for flights out of UK and Europe.

    One thing that you might not know...is that I was posting flight deals here before most people had even heard of the flight deal websites(under a username that I don't use anymore). All honoured.QUOTE]

    The fact is that you are just writing without real experience. Whereas I am stating that I have not had even a single price revision in twenty years.

    Have you not taken your medication today?

    You don't know me - you don't know my travel patterns - and as I am the wrong side of fifty, over those years I can certainly state that I have travelled the world extensively - on many carriers, aircraft and cabins - thankfully nowadays moreso in the pointy end of the plane so I don't really look for the types of flights that you are referring to - or really care about your '20 years of flying' which keeps cropping up with monotonous regularity.


    As alluded to upthread, you postings are aggressive and as I suggested earlier, just wait until you have had successful trip and come back and report that there were no issues -but you seem to be argumentative and dismiss every bit of advice/concern that is offered.

    I couldn't care less if your trip is cancelled or if your trip is trouble free.

    In your shoes, I would be delighted at bagging a flight at a great price and thanking all of the posters who issued a caveat in respect of purchasing a fare that may or may not be a glitch.

    You are really embarrassing yourself.
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