Confrontation with reckless driver

sunshine1980

GabbaGabbaHey wrote: »

Does this not tell you something about your driving?

Perhaps you should consider having some additional lessons - just because you have passed your driving test doesn't mean that you know how to drive ...

My post should have said I have seen incidents not been in incidents. Should have checked before posting. I would not still be driving if that was the case! Thanks for pointing out.

PenguinJim

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Really............

Yes, really. Read the part you just quoted and bolded! :rotfl: People who learned to drive in countries with lower standards of driving. No judgement based on skin colour, but a factual statement that driving standards are different in Asian countries, and that people that grew up in those countries (no matter their skin colour) generally wouldn't be able to pass a driving test in the UK.

In your response to Strider590, you said that you see Asian drivers every day. You're using "Asian" in a different context - assuming them to be people of Asian descent, based purely on their appearance (which is, generally speaking, racist, ironically enough). At least, I hope you were. Otherwise it would seem that you're the cause of congestion in Birmingham as you stop every driver and demand to know where they were born and raised!

Do you understand the difference?

Asian - meaning someone born and raised in a country in Asia.
Asian - meaning someone of Asian descent.

You misinterpreted Strider590's use of the first definition and took it to mean the second. But the silver lining is that you reminded me of this story.

sh0597

Birmingham has the highest car insurance costs in the country, it's a good job Asian drivers aren't actually bad then or it would be even higher.

quidsy

With a small child in the back you would do better to think of them next time you plan to go all Rambo on some random stranger over a traffic disagreement. I presume you locked the car & made sure your child was secure before running off to "deal " with the RAC man. When I have my child in the car I would never instigate an argument with another driver. My Childs wellbeing & safety is more important that getting the upper hand.

Norman_Castle

PenguinJim wrote: »

Yes, really. Read the part you just quoted and bolded! :rotfl: People who learned to drive in countries with lower standards of driving. No judgement based on skin colour, but a factual statement that driving standards are different in Asian countries, and that people that grew up in those countries (no matter their skin colour) generally wouldn't be able to pass a driving test in the UK.

In your response to Strider590, you said that you see Asian drivers every day. You're using "Asian" in a different context - assuming them to be people of Asian descent, based purely on their appearance (which is, generally speaking, racist, ironically enough). At least, I hope you were. Otherwise it would seem that you're the cause of congestion in Birmingham as you stop every driver and demand to know where they were born and raised!

Do you understand the difference?

Asian - meaning someone born and raised in a country in Asia.
Asian - meaning someone of Asian descent.

You misinterpreted Strider590's use of the first definition and took it to mean the second. But the silver lining is that you reminded me of this story.

Strider implied Asian drivers are foreign drivers. I haven't misinterpreted anyone.

Don't expect a reply. I'm off to Wales, and we all know what they're like:D

PenguinJim

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Strider implied Asian drivers are foreign drivers.

I'd go a bit further than that - I'd say Strider590 claimed outright that people who were born and raised in Asian countries are foreign when they come to the UK! (How is that wrong?)

Idiophreak

Norman_Castle wrote: »

I don't think its deeper(?). Strider finds it "a complex road system with people who can't read road signs/markings and it's complete mayhem." apparently.

I haven't suggested people are poorer drivers in cities. You find it "sketcheir" and think foreign drivers are the reason. Are there a higher percentage of foreign drivers in cities?. Whats your definition of a foreign driver?.

Are there a higher percentage of foreign drivers in cities? Yes. In a word.

For the purposes of this discussion, I'll say that a foreign driver is anyone who learnt to drive, or is used to driving, in a different country. This isn't limited to asians...if you've ever stood on the Arc De Triomphe and looked at the chaos around you...if you've ever taken a cab ride in NYC...or, at the other end of the spectrum, if you've driven in Iceland (where motorists stop if there's a pedestrian 20 yards from a crossing)...you'll know that driving cultures vary massively around the world.

Oh, and I said I thought foreign drivers "play a role", not that they're the sole reason.

Iceweasel

Well I have to agree -abroad is full of foreigners.

neilmcl

darkmatter101 wrote: »

I'm in no way suggesting I am superior to anyone else, that is absurd.

Sorry, but that certainly isn't how you come across -

darkmatter101 wrote: »

I would agree that a lot of members from 'BMW Land' and 'Bimmer forums' would criticise me for my words, however, you tend to find that the people criticizing are those who have the 4 cylinder entry level BMW's such as the 118d, 320d, 318i's etc. They are not real BMW enthusiasts and simply buy the car for it's badge prestige.

I'd love to see you get away with a comment like that on BMW Land.

BeenThroughItAll

darkmatter101 wrote: »

I'm in no way suggesting I am superior to anyone else, that is absurd. I am implying that my vehicle (E92 BMW M3) is superior is most other vehicles on the road. There is no denying this. And I still strongly believe anyone in their Fords/Vauxhalls/Fiats or any car for that matter with a 2 liter or less engine (with exceptions to performance cars such as the Honda s2000) overtaking should be made ILLEGAL. Far too many times have I come across dangerous situations with people in their rubbish Ford Focus/Mondeo trying to overtake. If the road is clear for at least 3 miles ahead and it is straight then fair enough but for anything less, these people with their sub par cars should not be doing such things.

However you perceive yourself, I think I speak for many of us when I say that, and this is not meant to cause offence, you come across as a massive bell-end.