Neighbours cat fouling our garden

foxtrotoscar_2

condoghost wrote: »

Totally not true. where oh where do so many get this idea that keeping your cat indoors is cruel??? we had cats for many years throughout my childhood teens and twenties. Never once did any of our cats venture outside and neither did anyone else's cat try to do so either. It's only since PC times that owners have encouraged their pet cats to not be a pet cat, to roam fouling wherever they please. Total nonsense "cats are a free spirit". There is a lot that cat owners can do. They can start treating there cat as a pet for starters, keeping it safe inside, training it to use an indoor litter tray, cleaning out the mess and providing fresh litter each and every time your cat uses the tray. After all, you don't go wiping your own backside whenever you might think to do same you don't go fouling and urinating your neighbors garden. So, if it's okay for you not-to-do and you stop your dog from doing , why is it some seem to believe there's nothing you as an owner can do to stop your cat from running wild fouling wherever??? If there's nothing you can do then why have a cat as a pet in the first place. Doing so would be irresponsible.

I've been owned by cats for 40 years and without exception every one of them preferred to be outside given the choice.

condoghost

Loopy28 wrote: »

Cats don't generally poo in their own garden, they poo elsewhere. I have three cats and am quite aware they poo in others gardens but what can an owner realistically do? The best way to stop getting cat poo in your garden is to get a cat yourself.

What can an owner realistically do??? 1) Not own a cat in the first place knowing that your cat will be fouling others gardens and not your own, 2) train your cat to use your indoor litter bin keeping it fresh and clean at all times inviting for your cat to use it at all times, and 3) taking appropriate steps to keep your cat contained in your own property same as you would do if it were your own child. It should not be forced on others to get a cat to stop yours fouling their garden.

fairy_lights

condoghost wrote: »

Oh, please post your address here. We'll encourage these fouling cats to move town to be part of your life. S##t as you put it may be part of your life and I bet you clean up after yours, right?

Condoghost, you seem bizarrely angry about this. I'm sure most people who have gardens have had to deal with cat poop at some point, but really, it's not the end of the world.
Why exactly does this bother you so much that you have had to write so many posts about it?

condoghost

Pixie5740 wrote: »

An Australian friend of mine told me that down under cats have a 9pm curfew and that it's perfectly legal to shoot a cat if you see it out and about after 9pm. I'm not advocating that as it's cruel ...

I'm lost as to why anyone would think it cruel if it's perfectly legal to shoot a cat if you see it out and about after 9pm. Shoot it dead that is, not leaving it injured. So many are "lost" in this world of their cat being a "pet" and at the same time "free to roam and foul wherever same as a wild boar perhaps. The wild boar that is bred for food. I've seen cat served up in some countries. Some say very tasty. Yet others get so upset with that. It's okay for their cat to go foul in others gardens but not their own and it's so cruel to shoot them when they're out fouling, killing birds, and so forth. Strange world you've all created.

gettingready

condoghost wrote: »

So, I'm wondering why this isn't a problem in quite a few other countries where they have their own open space? Living in Asia for some 15-years I never once came across fouled pavements, fouled open spaces. No dog mess no cat mess anywhere. I wonder why that is?

Perhaps they were all cooked and eaten?

And keeping cats in US as indoor only - do you know they also dewclaw them too?

Leaving spiky things for cats to hurt themselves?

Jesussssssssssssssssss - I read the last 2 pages of this thread and I am horrified.

I have 6 (yes SIX) cats and a dog.

My cats go out for 1-3 hours per day and as soon as they get back in - off they go into their litter boxes. I do not believe they mess outside, they like their lovely soft sand like clumping litter indoors.

BUT not all cats are like that and as there are a lot of cats around where I live - I can imagine someone seeing my cats and mess in their garden and assuming wrongly that one of mine are responsible for it and trying to hurt them.

Believe me - if anyone hurt any of my cats or my dog, there would he hell breaking loose and I would not like to be in that person's skin.

condoghost

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

Some more things to note - if we did not have 'free roaming cats' there would be a much higher level of rat infestation, they keep the rat numbers down.... You also need to teach your kids to come and tell you when they find a pile ....

no free roaming cats = a higher level of rat infestation??? Total nonsense. There isn't a stat anywhere to back-up this reasoning at all. And how condescending is that "you also need to teach your kids"! Happy to put up with the magpie poo and squirrel poo but you keep your cat's poo in your own back yard otherwise don't own a cat in the first place!

condoghost

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

Why are the grand kids playing on the freshly dug flowerbeds.....?

And what has that got to do with anything. They're not your flower beds. The flower beds are there for them to do with them as they please. They are not there for the cat owner's cat to foul and mess as they please.

condoghost

sammyjammy wrote: »

Mine do, its about making your own garden a place where your cats want to "go" we have an outdoor litter tray which contains a mix of sand and small gravel, I empty it of waste everyday. My cats have free rein to wander and use my neighbours garden for sunbathing. They do not go for a poo in this garden. Anywhere else they wander is probably undergrowth and wild areas.

At last, a responsible cat owner who is up front on the how-to-do. It takes effort and responsibility. It's a great shame the many out there who just can't be bothered to do as you do. Thank-you for being a caring responsible cat owner. I wish I had you living next door to me and not the neighbour I have who neither has an indoor litter tray nor an outdoor one for their cat; where the cat has obviously come straight from the pet shop and has not been house trained for their home.

condoghost

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/9 The Animal Welfare Act which passed into law in 2006 states that all animals kept as pets in the UK must have provision made for a suitable living environment, including the freedom to exhibit normal and natural behaviour patterns, a suitable diet, and protection from pain, suffering, wilful neglect and preventable disease. It also covers the penalties for wilful neglect or causing deliberate harm to an animal (whether owned or not) which can include a prison sentence, fines of up to £20,000, and being banned from keeping animals. The Animal Welfare Act 2006 also states that it is illegal to sell an animal of any type to a person of less than 16 years of age.

And I'm guessing you believe the freedom to exhibit normal and natural behaviour patterns includes the freedom to foul any and all private property. A tricky one this. Who is to say that fouling in some else's garden is a exhibiting a normal natural behaviour pattern? The animal Welfare act 2006 does not state it is illegal to keep a cat inside 24/7, does it? Neither does it say training a cat to use an indoor litter tray denies the cat the freedom of exhibiting normal and natural behaviour patterns, does it? And most certainly the cat owner taking measures such as preventing their cat from fouling a neigbours garden is in keeping with this Act? Or is it you believe this Act gives you the cat owner freedom to allow your cat to do whatever foul wherever on that basis that provides the freedom to exhibit normal and natural behaviour patterns. I'm sure I can provide you with some cats that will be only too happy to foul your garden to be in keeping with this requirement.

condoghost

phoenix_w wrote: »

This is the most depressing thread in the history of online forums. Where did common sense go to? Once the new world order forces cat owners to lock their pets indoors, will you all move your targets to squirrels or pigeons? Will we be reading threads where people are advising each other to blow up invading badgers with plastic explosives?

"The new world order forces cat owners to lock their cats indoors"??? Where is the old world order giving cat owners the right to unleash their cats outdoors to foul neighbours gardens??? It isn't a problem in many countries so why should it be a problem here??? Cat owners keep your cats under control to use the litter tray that you provide and keep clean for them to do so at every opportunity. We love your cats as long as they are not fouling anywhere but where their owners live.