Am I Expecting Too Much?

iolanthe07

Good luck pimento and enjoy your Mazda when you get it. I would love one, but it would have to be a second car. Love your sig, by the way.

bigjl

Mazda MX5 is a very popular car and a decent one will always find a home.

Your i30 is a reliable enough little car and has low miles.

But is not worth much.

Put the details into WBAC and get an idea of a low end trade valuation.

But to expect a dealer to give you £6500 for your i30 is fantasy i'm afraid.

pimento

bigjl wrote: »

But to expect a dealer to give you £6500 for your i30 is fantasy i'm afraid.

To be fair, if you read the thread again, that isn't what I was expecting. I expected a bit more haggle room on his part because I would have gone up some if he had come down some.
It just seems a bit unlikely that the only room for manoeuvre he had on the Mazda was £499.

Of course, I don't sell cars but when I bought my car in 2010 (when it was six months old) the price on the screen was £9000 and I paid £8000. I don't change my car often so I only have that experience to go on.

(WBAC said my car was worth £3690.)

I still wonder if I had gone into the garage with nothing to sell the price would have been the same? (£499 off a £17000 car.)

RMS2

pimento wrote: »

I will admit to being a bit surprised that they were so inflexible considering that I told him I wanted to buy the car.

The company is not a charity. He obviously wasn't that bothered in the trade in. He can obviously sell the Mazda all day long and doesn't want to let it go for a song.


MSErs always want a deal and the reverse of this is, a trader wants to hold on to some margin when he has the chance.


It's not a case of being unreasonable or expectations, it's a case of, you offer some money and he offers you a price, if they meet, then you have a deal, it they don't, then you have no deal.

pimento

RMS2 wrote: »

The company is not a charity. He obviously wasn't that bothered in the trade in. He can obviously sell the Mazda all day long and doesn't want to let it go for a song.


MSErs always want a deal and the reverse of this is, a trader wants to hold on to some margin when he has the chance.


It's not a case of being unreasonable or expectations, it's a case of, you offer some money and he offers you a price, if they meet, then you have a deal, it they don't, then you have no deal.

Which I suppose is why he still has the car on his forecourt and I'm still driving a Hyundai.

force_ten

pimento wrote: »

(WBAC said my car was worth £3690.)

I still wonder if I had gone into the garage with nothing to sell the price would have been the same? (£499 off a £17000 car.)

That price from WBAC sort of backs up what i said earlier pitch it at around the 5K mark with a look to sell for £4500-£4600 as a private sale, your car should sell on the private market may just take a bit of time and may need an advert in the local paper to generate a bit of interest

the problem with the Mazda is you were just to far apart and the salesman just couldnt see you coming together at a price that was within his margins, even with his £500 drop you were still £3k off making a deal

had you gone into the deal with £15K on the table you go up a grand he comes down a grand and you meet in the middle, the way i see it is the salesman just saw the deal as a non stater with only £13.5k on the table on your side

winter will soon be here and the sporty drop top wil not be such an easy sell for the dealer, so maybe when there is snow on the ground and nobody is interested in buying cars he may be a little more accommodating

motorguy

pimento wrote: »

Which I suppose is why he still has the car on his forecourt and I'm still driving a Hyundai.

Or from his perspective, why he still has a car on his forecourt that he can make good profit on, rather than sell it at a loss and take a trade in he doesnt want.

And you still dont have an mx5

motorguy

force_ten wrote: »

winter will soon be here and the sporty drop top wil not be such an easy sell for the dealer, so maybe when there is snow on the ground and nobody is interested in buying cars he may be a little more accommodating

He may be, but likewise he might not.

He may opt to hold on to it over the winter and sell it in the spring - I would say the distressed sale price of it in the midst of winter is significantly lower than what it will make come april time.

pimento

If I sell my car and have nothing to trade in, what could a reasonable person expect to pay for a car like the one I described?

force_ten

was the car you were looking at the Soft top or Roadster Coupe?