Scottish independence

jimjames

Archi_Bald wrote: »

The scary thing is that so many people appear to believe the half truths. I often wonder why so many people in Scotland don't seem to have heard that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true.

Maybe I need to post my sig a bit more

kingrulzuk

Voted YES

Thrugelmir

scott_lithgows wrote: »

Fair enough but no one believes the promises from London based parties re further devolution powers.

So a party that represents in total a small minority that live within the UK are going to demand special rights. Sounds like a Scargill scenario all over again.

benalder284

Archi_Bald wrote: »

The scary thing is that so many people appear to believe the half truths. I often wonder why so many people in Scotland don't seem to have heard that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true.

As a Scot, I am desperately hoping that the silent majority are seeing through the half-truths and assertions; but it is feeling scarily close

moneyfoolish

DavidF wrote: »

Now I know fine well that Scotland is not "in the clear" here BUT can I just point out something to all these people who feel they will move all their cash out of scottish companies in the event of a Yes vote.
1. The Uk as a whole has a £750 BILLION pension black hole....Not great
2. The Uk as a whole has - just over £1 TRILLION worth of deb to its name ....if you take in future liabilities it is actually closer to £4 Trillion
Now the old currency argument is going towards a "let us use the £ or we have no debt as part the "divorce" - So the UK looses all the Scottish tax and cost's its own businesses 500m (estimate) to just continue to sell goods and services to Scotland.
Still looking good to move all your cash to R-UK ?
In reality all of this is just hysteria by people who frankly don't have much of a clue about what will happen and what choices they will have even if the wanted to move all their cash/pensions ect. It really is pretty tiresome seeing people continually threaten to spit their dummy out over a vote that may or may not effect them personally.
Abby National is owned by one of them silly Euro using companies and they are the Spanish santander group.....so the currency issues don't seem to have frozen their £££ in their cashpoints, Is having your cash in a Scottish institution going to be any different ? What happens when Martin Lewis comes on here in 5 years time declaring Scotland to have the best return for investments ect ? Will you write to your pension provider whoever they are and demand they do not touch Scottish business with your pension pot ?
All the while the majority of the UK still think they subsidize Scotland.....So why not get us off the books then lol....after all it's pure business sense isn't it ?

Probably because even the twerps who supposedly run our country have more loyalty to Britain than to ditch Scotland even if it is a liability in financial terms!

zagubov

Borrowedtune wrote: »

What happens under a scenario where the Scots vote Aye and then Labour with 40-odd Scottish MPs narrowly win the 2015 Westminster election ?

It's be more interesting if the Scots voted Naw, didn't get Devo Max, and voted in a majority of SNP MPs. By even Maggie Thatcher's reckoning a simple majority using FPTP would democratically entitle them to claim a mandate for independence and start negotiations.;)

irm

benalder284 wrote: »

As a Scot, I am desperately hoping that the silent majority are seeing through the half-truths and assertions; but it is feeling scarily close

Right there with you.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

benalder284 wrote: »

As a Scot, I am desperately hoping that the silent majority are seeing through the half-truths and assertions; but it is feeling scarily close

That the polls are as close as they are shows quite clearly that far too many people have been taken in by the nationalist lies.

planteria

it's drawing close now...and i think there is less coverage being given to the matter than there should be. i expect 'No'. i hope 'Yes'.

Buzby

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

That the polls are as close as they are shows quite clearly that far too many people have been taken in by the nationalist lies.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

If you're too ill informed to realise that it is Nationalists only that want independence, you're going to be surprised on 19th. Labour, Greens and a few Tories are voting YES.

Westminster can go hang - we've had enough.