Boss shouting at work

Valli

Fork wrote: »

Good lord, what kind of offices do you people work in where you can't pop to the post office?

Unless her absence for 20 minutes causes huge detriment to her role (such as an emergency services call handler), surely that time can just be taken from her overall break allowance?

There is absolutely no excuse for shouting at employees. Presumably the employee is an adult and therefore should be treated as such, not shouted at like a toddler in front of the whole office floor.

If OP really did break some major rules at that workplace maybe she should apologise for presuming she was able to do so, but at the same time she should demand an apology in return for the massive overreaction and unnecessary humiliation.

There are many jobs where the employee would be expected to be at their post . And many where one can pop out on an errand.

But few where you can just walk out on a whim to do an errand without checking.

Most employers would reasonably expect employees to run personal errands in their own time - like lunch breaks.

If an employee expects to be treated like an adult then they should behave like an adult. During work time their responsibility is to their employer and their role is to be in their place of work. Equally, the adult thing to do would be to apologise - not to moan that you've been shouted at!

michelle2008

Sorry haven't read through every post. But you are only hearing about this second hand. Bullying is singling some one out and treating them unfairly etc. one incident would not usually constitute bullying - and we don't know if he actually shouted, or if he did shout, whether he would have behaved the Same way towards others.

Your friend was in the wrong. Doesn't matter who the parcel was for. She should apologise. She may also wish to say, after the apology, that she would have preferred if he reprimanded her in a more professional manner - however that is as far as I would take it.

trollopscarletwoman

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Or the OP's friends gets sacked with no redress available to them...

I'm a realist, you are living in a fantasy world.

I live in a world where people still have a bit of spine about themselves.

I would argue that if apologies are offered both ways then reconcile can be found. But other posters seem to think that because of un-authorised absence then its ok to humiliate.

Which colleagues over hearing such a thing certainly is. And is not acceptable.

trollopscarletwoman

michelle2008 wrote: »

Sorry haven't read through every post. But you are only hearing about this second hand. Bullying is singling some one out and treating them unfairly etc. one incident would not usually constitute bullying - and we don't know if he actually shouted, or if he did shout, whether he would have behaved the Same way towards others.

Your friend was in the wrong. Doesn't matter who the parcel was for. She should apologise. She may also wish to say, after the apology, that she would have preferred if he reprimanded her in a more professional manner - however that is as far as I would take it.

That's just the point.

She was unprofessional but he/she was even more unprofessional and downright intimidatory.

And that's the boss.

tomtontom

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

I live in a world where people still have a bit of spine about themselves.

I would argue that if apologies are offered both ways then reconcile can be found. But other posters seem to think that because of un-authorised absence then its ok to humiliate.

Which colleagues over hearing such a thing certainly is. And is not acceptable.

The irony is that you come across as a very shouty person.

trollopscarletwoman

tomtontom wrote: »

The irony is that you come across as a very shouty person.

Good.

The spine is still there.

I'm not in the army so I don't shout at people in the workplace.

I ask nicely. Shame some bosses don't see it like that.

As I earlier wrote there could be a hidden message here that of frighten one and frighten them all. Seen it myself.

Valli

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

That's just the point.

She was unprofessional but he/she was even more unprofessional and downright intimidatory.

And that's the boss.

What also should be borne in mind that, having been employed in that workplace for less than a year she's in a vulnerable position re job security. That's why I feel she should apologise for leaving the workplace.

scooby088

I would have thought any intelligent person would have asked to leave, as for the boss I would definately apologise but I would also want one back too.

trollopscarletwoman

Valli wrote: »

What also should be borne in mind that, having been employed in that workplace for less than a year she's in a vulnerable position re job security. That's why I feel she should apologise for leaving the workplace.

They should both apologise.

The boss first but do it so that the workforce that heard the shouting can hear it as well.

Only fair.

lemontart

Fork wrote: »

Good lord, what kind of offices do you people work in where you can't pop to the post office?

I have never worked anywhere in over 30 years where was considered acceptable to leave my post without permission and leave the premises for personal business during my actual paid hours of work other than my allotted breaks.

As a employer I would expect my staff not to do so either