Boss shouting at work

Takeaway_Addict

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Are you suggesting because of the shortage of work then you just take it up the arris?

Are you saying that being shouted at one time is worth risking your job?

trollopscarletwoman

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Are you saying that being shouted at one time is worth risking your job?

Absolutely.

Otherwise your a slave.

Disciplinary procedures should work both ways-at least in theory.

Cyberman60

She should have gone in her lunch break, otherwise should have asked for permission as simply leaving the office is undermining the bosses authority and showing lack of respect towards him. He replied in kind IMO. Both sides have shown aspects of bullying towards eachother. She should apologise.

sinizterguy

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Are you suggesting because of the shortage of work then you just take it up the arris?

As an employer, with a fair few employees, I am saying that there are odd occasions where someone may get shouted at. On rare occasions, I may get shouted at too.

Deal with it or go find another job.

I do not condone shouting as a regular occurrence at the workplace. But I do believe it may happen on occasion, as it does in the outside world. If people cannot deal with it once in a very rare while, I am willing to part ways with them.

When I was an employee too, there were rare occasions when I was shouted at by someone senior. It happens. I don't go around filing grievances.

I have seen it from both sides, and people who !!!!!, moan and whine about the very rare occasion where they may get shouted at will be wished all possible success ... somewhere else.

And if someone wandered to the Post Office to pick up parcels during work time, without clearing it with the relevant people, well ...... They too will be wished all possible success at someone else's expense. Not on my payroll.

If permission is asked, and there is a quiet time when they are not needed, they can go and come back within the agreed time period. No problem at all.

mattcanary

Some people shout.


Some people behave condescendingly and use spiteful language (but in a calm tone) instead when they are unhappy with someone.


Which is worse when being disciplined? I would say being shouted at is the least worse, to be honest.


Besides, OP's friend seems to have started the situation off by !!!!!!ing off from work. That is not a genuine mistake - it is taking liberties. At least, that appears to be the case (unless her colleagues regularly do the same thing and it is normally seen as being perfectly OK by management there).

Takeaway_Addict

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Absolutely.

Otherwise your a slave.

Disciplinary procedures should work both ways-at least in theory.

Ok. I wouldn't discipline someone for one a one time outburst. I have had two staff shout at me one time each and it was better for me to talk to them about it and explain it was unacceptable and action would be taken next time than discipline them on this one occasion.

The two staff that have shouted at me had very stressful personal lives at the times.

I would have been quite within my rights to have taken it further but common sense prevailed.

Valli

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

There seem to be some apologist sheep on here.

Join the army if you want to be shouted at. Even there it isn't the best way to go about things.

You don't shout at people in the workplace.

It is totally unacceptable.

And, by the same token, you don't just walk out of a workplace. If I walk out of my workplace during my lunch hour (which I am quite entitled to do) I still tell someone I am leaving the premises in case there is a fire alarm.

trollopscarletwoman

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Ok. I wouldn't discipline someone for one a one time outburst. I have had two staff shout at me one time each and it was better for me to talk to them about it and explain it was unacceptable and action would be taken next time than discipline them on this one occasion.

The two staff that have shouted at me had very stressful personal lives at the times.

I would have been quite within my rights to have taken it further but common sense prevailed.

The onus is on the higher up to show best practice. They are paid extra for that.

So many apologists here for bad behaviour.

trollopscarletwoman

sinizterguy wrote: »

Deal with it or go find another job.

I would deal with it.

trollopscarletwoman

Cyberman60 wrote: »

She should have gone in her lunch break, otherwise should have asked for permission as simply leaving the office is undermining the bosses authority and showing lack of respect towards him. He replied in kind IMO. Both sides have shown aspects of bullying towards eachother. She should apologise.

He replied in kind by shouting and balling.

Who is the bigger fool-

the fool or the fool that follows!